Hello Arelor!

The issue is they have realized that ad-revenue is a dead
end in the long term so they are trying to make the
expeirence so misserable you end up paying for premium.
Then, once you paid for premium, they start shoving ads up
your ass anyway.

Premium still pushes ads? I did not know that.

I did get suckered in to the inserted vid feeds in my channel
early on when they started. But now I notice that many of them
look similar and fake.

I totally try to avoid FB as long as I can. I have a canned
message reply on my FB biz Messenger page to "use email if you
expect a reply".



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Re: Then, once you paid for premium..
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Nov 10 2025 12:31 pm

Premium still pushes ads? I did not know that.

I think it does not (yet), but many videos have sponsors anyway, so you will end up eating their sponsorship advertisement anyway unless you use advanced adblocking.

But still, many streaming platforms sold themselves as the premium option you pay to get rid of the ads, and eventually started including ads in their paid subscriptions anyway.

So, frankly, the wise thing to do is to skip paying them and just go straight for good adblockers. Specially for youtube, because their plan is clearly to make the free experience so pityful, painful and misserable you end up paying. It is extortion, blackmail, creating a problem in order to sell you their solution. So fuck them.


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Re: Then, once you paid for premium..
By: Arelor to Ogg on Mon Nov 10 2025 02:47 pm

But still, many streaming platforms sold themselves as the premium
option you pay to get rid of the ads, and eventually started
including ads in their paid subscriptions anyway.

So, frankly, the wise thing to do is to skip paying them and just
go straight for good adblockers. Specially for youtube, because
their plan is clearly to make the free experience so pityful,
painful and misserable you end up paying. It is extortion,
blackmail, creating a problem in order to sell you their solution.
So fuck them.

i think youtube has tried to get me to do a premium trial like 1000x.
some people say it's good for playing music.
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Re: Then, once you paid for premium..
By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Nov 11 2025 12:35 am

i think youtube has tried to get me to do a premium trial like 1000x.
some people say it's good for playing music.

one thing i just noticed is i'm no longer able to increase the speeds of some videos. i think this is because i'm not youtube plus or whatever.

i'm a big fan of watching youtube vids at a faster rate.

now i think it's because i have an adblocker chrome extension.

i dont have an issue on opera with no addons
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On 11 Nov 2025, MRO said the following...

one thing i just noticed is i'm no longer able to increase the speeds of some videos. i think this is because i'm not youtube plus or whatever.

i'm a big fan of watching youtube vids at a faster rate.

now i think it's because i have an adblocker chrome extension.

they've been messing with stuff on there too much lately.. it looks stupid now with the transparent blobs

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Re: Then, once you paid for premium..
By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Nov 11 2025 12:35 am

i think youtube has tried to get me to do a premium trial like 1000x. some people say it's good for playing music.

I've had YouTube Premium for a little while. I do think it's good for music, though I also like to browse & watch videos on YouTube sometimes, and it's nice to not have them interrupted with ads.

Nightfox

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Re: Then, once you paid for premium..
By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Nov 11 2025 01:23 pm

I've had YouTube Premium for a little while. I do think it's good for music, though I also like to browse & watch videos on YouTube sometimes, and it's nice to not have them interrupted with ads.

Nightfox

I find running a local Youtube frontend is much more convenient than paying. If you are on Android you can just install NewPipe and use that instead of the Youtube application. It is every bit as good and it is free, with the bonus point of having integration with other platforms (such as Bandcamp) as well.

But I also think not paying Youtube a dime is a matter of principle. Paying them is yielding to blackmail. They are selling you a solution to a problem they created, and on top of that their solution has plenty of technical limitations using an adblocking frontend does not suffer.


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Re: Then, once you paid for premium..
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Mon Nov 17 2025 06:55 am

I find running a local Youtube frontend is much more convenient than paying. If you are on Android you can just install NewPipe and use that instead of the Youtube application. It is every bit as good and it is free, with the bonus point of having integration with other platforms (such as Bandcamp) as well.

Interesting.. I hadn't heard of that. Often though, I watch YouTube on my Roku TV or Nvidia Shield Pro device, and it looks like NewPipe is not available for either of those.

But I also think not paying Youtube a dime is a matter of principle. Paying them is yielding to blackmail. They are selling you a solution to a problem they created, and on top of that their solution has plenty of technical limitations using an adblocking frontend does not suffer.

What is the problem that they created? They need to make revenue somehow, either by selling (and showing ads) or charing users directly. I'm not sure what "problem" there is there..

Nightfox

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Re: Then, once you paid for premium..
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Mon Nov 17 2025 11:00 am

Interesting.. I hadn't heard of that. Often though, I watch YouTube on my Roku TV or Nvidia Shield Pro device, and it looks like NewPipe is not available for either of those.

Point is, there are many alternative programs such as NewPipe for every platform, including for desktop use. I keep a personal Piped instance for me and my friends to use. You can think of it as a proxy service. You visit it with your web browser and watch videos directly there, and what the service is doing is fetching Youtube content and playing it for you.

What is the problem that they created? They need to make revenue somehow, either by selling (and showing ads) or charing users directly. I'm not sure what "problem" there is there..

Not so long ago, you could watch videos and you would get an occasional advertisement. Nowadays, they shove so much advertising into the damn thing you will be wading through more commercials than actual videos. Before, it was not a problem, but it is a problem now. The fact people didn't care and now do care shows they created a problem.

The fun part is power users who didn't give a damn have switched to hardcore advertisement blocking, to the point these days you can block sponsored segments of videos using automated tools. Nobody would have bothered 8 years ago, but once you begin blocking advertisements, it is easy to go all the way in and nuke all of them.


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Re: Then, once you paid for premium..
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Mon Nov 17 2025 11:00 am

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