• Set in (Rolling) Stone(s)

    From Vlk-451@VERT/MNLOUNGE to Dumas Walker on Tue Mar 1 17:55:39 2022
    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: Dumas Walker to DREAM MASTER on Sat Feb 26 2022 10:38:00

    Most old-school techies, anyone between 40 and 60, are quite peculiar. We are
    ery set in our ways and don't like change. When we get stuck on a topic, we t
    d to not move on from it.

    I cannot prove it, but I suspect we are peculiar and don't like change because we came up in our hobby/profession working with systems where
    things like security were paramount.

    The world of mobile apps, and what some users are willing to give up to use them, seems to go very much against what we learned on the way.

    I have a particular nostalgia for Windows XP machines and older 16 bit hardware, mostly the SNES because those were the machines I grew up with and was familiar using. I also use to post on http:// imageboards like 4chan, so I was use to reading and seeing pictures along with text posts from my GUI prison. I was quite new to tech in those years. I built my current rig in 2014 and haven't upgraded from Win7 because 10's Defender would eat half of my processing power against my will, and I would rather have the better performance, or the option to close explorer.exe

    Then again, I think there is a charm in Telnet and other CLInterface style programs/computing. All of you who grew up with an inate understanding of their eligance and convenience, especially on limited hardware.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/MNLOUNGE to MRO, All on Tue Mar 1 18:14:52 2022
    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: MRO to SYS64738 on Sun Feb 27 2022 11:12:56

    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: SYS64738 to Arelor on Sat Feb 26 2022 08:21 pm

    2. Should they slander or defame you, then go get a lawyer if you want to shut them up.

    oh god i love it when people threaten me with legal action. gives me a huge boner.

    My favorite kind of legal action is Arbitration, because I can attempt to come to the table and argue that the arbiter should be Ronald McDonald.

    the rhetoric for a while.

    home visit. then they see i am the same dude in person as i am online.
    i almost did that with evan elias and dude shit his pants.
    he was making up lies saying i was giving people viruses.
    this is when all my src was viewable.

    Was that back when Rocky III came out? I'm pretty sure that was the one with the big Russian guy, but that might have been IV.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/MNLOUNGE to Nightfox on Tue Mar 1 18:19:55 2022
    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Sun Feb 27 2022 15:21:17

    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Sun Feb 27 2022 11:43 am

    not one could sneak in. it was even harder when the phone cable was unplugged.

    I turn my PC off when I'm not using it though, so it's still not connected all the time (no reason to keep consuming electricity if I'm not using it).

    Your modern PCs, mostly Laptops, will stay in a "Sleep" mode rather then completely off, especially if it's Win 10 or newer on the OS. Older hardware from certain manufaturers like Lenovo will get pissy if you remove the Wifi card and will stop letting you charge the battery because it can't send your keystroke data back to the CCP from it's hardware built in keylogger chip.

    Gotta love shit like that in your "ThinkPad" branded devices.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/MNLOUNGE to Nightfox on Tue Mar 1 18:20:53 2022
    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Sun Feb 27 2022 15:42:55

    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: Denn to SYS64738 on Sun Feb 27 2022 12:06 am

    Oh yes get a Lawyer and sue for slander, I'm sure there are Lawyers lined up waiting to take a slander case on a BBS forum.

    Several years ago, someone on Dove-Net talked about getting a lawyer to sue MRO for online slander, and I remember MRO saying he did get sued.

    That sounds like the Anime ark of a lifetime.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/MNLOUNGE to MRO on Tue Mar 1 18:23:48 2022
    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Feb 27 2022 20:59:48

    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Sun Feb 27 2022 03:21 pm

    I turn my PC off when I'm not using it though, so it's still not

    i keep my computer on all the time. i'm worried that someday i'll turn it off and then it wont start up.

    On the one hand, I get people who are like "B-but muh uptime!"

    On the other hand, you are shocking the shit out of rocks so that they can scream at each other over fiber optic cables so that you can see pretty lights and sounds that give your meat brain the good chemical.

    You should probably let those rocks rest some time, cool off. I think they earned at least a 30 minuet lunch every 6 hours worked.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/MNLOUNGE to MRO on Tue Mar 1 18:26:12 2022
    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Feb 27 2022 21:01:57

    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Sun Feb 27 2022 03:42 pm

    Several years ago, someone on Dove-Net talked about getting a lawyer to sue MRO for online slander, and I remember MRO saying he did get sued.

    you have a problem with your memory again.

    that didn't happen.
    sampsa got mad because i brought up how he gets fired and ends up working all over the place doing other things in other countries. he was posting about this on fb when i was his friend on there. it was true.

    he was asking my friends for my personal info and they told him to fuck off. he should haved just asked me for it, i'd have given it.

    anyways, he didn't back it up.

    Well, keeping back ups back then was a lot harder. You're talking about magnetic tape floppy disks. My wallet could scuzz up those things on accident, let alone all the other shit that made those things go bad.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/MNLOUNGE to MRO on Tue Mar 1 18:28:04 2022
    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Feb 27 2022 21:05:04

    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sun Feb 27 2022 06:26 pm

    The idea that everybody must be reachable 24/7 is disturbing.

    i'm wondering how far this will go unchecked. i'm also wondering if it takes snapshots with the camera to find stuff and show ads.

    Yes. It will also listen into the microphone and pick out recently spoken key words for advertisement depending on the app provider in question. Facebook is the worst for this usually.

    I refuse to call them Meta. That was OUR word Gamers. THIS is the Metaverse right here.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/MNLOUNGE to Denn on Tue Mar 1 18:31:08 2022
    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: Denn to SYS64738 on Sun Feb 27 2022 20:38:48

    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: SYS64738 to Denn on Sun Feb 27 2022 08:09 am

    I guarantee, all it will take is one good legal ruling and suance SY>> leveled against one of these guys getting their ass handed to them SY>> to quiet down the rhetoric for a while.

    Oh yes get a Lawyer and sue for slander, I'm sure there are Lawyers
    lined up waiting to take a slander case on a BBS forum.

    Throw caution to the wind at your own peril.

    1st off there has to be slander and that has not happened here.
    2nd only an Idiot would waste time and money to pursue a fradulent case loke that.

    3rd If someone is that stupid I would counter sue and win.

    ... It works better if you plug it in.

    Okay, but who could you slander someone's personality to here? All 27 active users? MAYBE at most. All of you are the SysOps and regular posters who have been here since the beginig of time. Half of you could probably recite all the regular poster's handles by memory drunk, backwards while walking a straight line under duress from a law enforcement officer blinding you with his flashlight during the entire process unessecarily.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Vlk-451 on Wed Mar 2 02:19:00 2022
    Vlk-451 wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I turn my PC off when I'm not using it though, so it's still not connected all the time (no reason to keep consuming electricity if I'm not using it).

    Your modern PCs, mostly Laptops, will stay in a "Sleep" mode
    rather then completely off, especially if it's Win 10 or newer on
    the OS. Older hardware from certain manufaturers like Lenovo will
    get pissy if you remove the Wifi card and will stop letting you
    charge the battery because it can't send your keystroke data back
    to the CCP from it's hardware built in keylogger chip.

    Gotta love shit like that in your "ThinkPad" branded devices.

    Really? I think your tinfoil beanie may need some tightening.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vlk-451 on Wed Mar 2 09:23:41 2022
    Re: Mr Studds & STDs for your Cyberware
    By: Vlk-451 to MRO, All on Tue Mar 01 2022 11:14 pm

    i almost did that with evan elias and dude shit his pants.
    he was making up lies saying i was giving people viruses.
    this is when all my src was viewable.

    Was that back when Rocky III came out? I'm pretty sure that was the one with the big Russian guy, but that might have been IV.


    nope rocky 3 came out in the 80s
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vlk-451 on Wed Mar 2 09:25:22 2022
    Re: Let those rocks sleep
    By: Vlk-451 to MRO on Tue Mar 01 2022 11:23 pm

    i keep my computer on all the time. i'm worried that someday i'll turn it off and then it wont start up.

    On the one hand, I get people who are like "B-but muh uptime!"

    On the other hand, you are shocking the shit out of rocks so that they can scream at each other over fiber optic cables so that you can see pretty lights and sounds that give your meat brain the good chemical.

    You should probably let those rocks rest some time, cool off. I think they


    hey you're trying to hard to be zany.

    regardless, my computer does not draw that much power. i've tested it.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vlk-451 on Wed Mar 2 04:15:26 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Vlk-451 to Nightfox on Tue Mar 01 2022 11:19 pm

    I turn my PC off when I'm not using it though, so it's still not
    connected all the time (no reason to keep consuming electricity if I'm
    not using it).

    Your modern PCs, mostly Laptops, will stay in a "Sleep" mode rather then completely off, especially if it's Win 10 or newer on the OS. Older

    My main computer at home is a desktop PC I built, and is currently running Windows 11. I turn it off when I'm not using it - and it's also plugged into a power strip, which I turn off after the PC powers down. The next time I turn it on, it looks to me like it starts up cold (not from a sleep state).

    Nightfox

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Wed Mar 2 18:03:00 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Nightfox to Vlk-451 on Wed Mar 02 2022 09:15 am

    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Vlk-451 to Nightfox on Tue Mar 01 2022 11:19 pm

    I turn my PC off when I'm not using it though, so it's still not
    connected all the time (no reason to keep consuming electricity if I'm
    not using it).

    Your modern PCs, mostly Laptops, will stay in a "Sleep" mode rather the completely off, especially if it's Win 10 or newer on the OS. Older

    My main computer at home is a desktop PC I built, and is currently running W
    like it starts up cold (not from a sleep state).

    Nightfox


    For awhile some board manufacturers were using Nicad batteries for bios and real time clock. They were cheaper than using a lithium cell, buit would run out if a machine sat for awhile unplugged or mechanically powered down.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/MNLOUNGE to Gamgee on Wed Mar 2 17:49:20 2022
    Re: Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Gamgee to Vlk-451 on Wed Mar 02 2022 07:19:00

    Vlk-451 wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I turn my PC off when I'm not using it though, so it's still not connected all the time (no reason to keep consuming electricity if I'm not using it).

    Your modern PCs, mostly Laptops, will stay in a "Sleep" mode
    rather then completely off, especially if it's Win 10 or newer on
    the OS. Older hardware from certain manufaturers like Lenovo will
    get pissy if you remove the Wifi card and will stop letting you
    charge the battery because it can't send your keystroke data back
    to the CCP from it's hardware built in keylogger chip.

    Gotta love shit like that in your "ThinkPad" branded devices.

    Really? I think your tinfoil beanie may need some tightening.

    Aluminum is useful in a pinch, but if you haven't already invested in a flak lined lead/steel helmet ALA Magmetto, then you're not even in the running. The microwaves from the havana syndrome guns have already got you. You're not gonna make it.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/MNLOUNGE to MRO on Wed Mar 2 17:53:08 2022
    Re: Let those rocks sleep
    By: MRO to Vlk-451 on Wed Mar 02 2022 14:25:22

    Re: Let those rocks sleep
    By: Vlk-451 to MRO on Tue Mar 01 2022 11:23 pm

    i keep my computer on all the time. i'm worried that someday i'll turn it off and then it wont start up.

    On the one hand, I get people who are like "B-but muh uptime!"

    On the other hand, you are shocking the shit out of rocks so that they can scream at each other over fiber optic cables so that you can see pretty lights and sounds that give your meat brain the good chemical.

    You should probably let those rocks rest some time, cool off. I think they

    hey you're trying to hard to be zany.

    regardless, my computer does not draw that much power. i've tested it.

    Leave it to Grandpa MRO to rain on my parade.

    Modern systems are getting shocking low on power draw, especailly on the little 1L builds and mobile hardware. I'm sure you daily drive something sleak and efficient.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/MNLOUNGE to Nightfox on Wed Mar 2 17:55:11 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Nightfox to Vlk-451 on Wed Mar 02 2022 09:15:26

    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Vlk-451 to Nightfox on Tue Mar 01 2022 11:19 pm

    I turn my PC off when I'm not using it though, so it's still not
    connected all the time (no reason to keep consuming electricity if I'm
    not using it).

    Your modern PCs, mostly Laptops, will stay in a "Sleep" mode rather then completely off, especially if it's Win 10 or newer on the OS. Older

    My main computer at home is a desktop PC I built, and is currently running Windows 11. I turn it off when I'm not using it - and it's also plugged into a power strip, which I turn off after the PC powers down. The next time I turn it on, it looks to me like it starts up cold (not from a sleep state).

    Nightfox

    Killing the power source is the only way to be sure. My only gripe is that on Windows 7 I have to manually reallign my lock whenever the CMOS battery drains and can't retain the time.

    My Moterboard mighr be fucked. I got this thing in 2014 and have put it though hell. I wouldn't be suprised.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vlk-451 on Thu Mar 3 04:07:35 2022
    Re: Let those rocks sleep
    By: Vlk-451 to MRO on Wed Mar 02 2022 10:53 pm

    Leave it to Grandpa MRO to rain on my parade.


    how did you know i was a grandpa?

    Modern systems are getting shocking low on power draw, especailly on the


    you mean systems that are over 10 years old?

    I'm sure you daily drive something
    sleak and efficient.

    i have a gas guzzler suv and then a small sedan for driving to work.

    hey you're trying to hard to be zany.
    ^^^^ you forgot to read this.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Vlk-451 on Fri Mar 4 20:50:00 2022
    Re: Let those rocks sleep
    By: Vlk-451 to MRO on Wed Mar 02 2022 10:53 pm

    Re: Let those rocks sleep
    By: MRO to Vlk-451 on Wed Mar 02 2022 14:25:22

    Re: Let those rocks sleep
    By: Vlk-451 to MRO on Tue Mar 01 2022 11:23 pm

    i keep my computer on all the time. i'm worried that someday i'll turn it off and then it wont start up.

    On the one hand, I get people who are like "B-but muh uptime!"

    On the other hand, you are shocking the shit out of rocks so that they can scream at each other over fiber optic cables so that you can see pretty lights and sounds that give your meat brain the good chemical.

    You should probably let those rocks rest some time, cool off. I think they

    hey you're trying to hard to be zany.

    regardless, my computer does not draw that much power. i've tested it.

    Leave it to Grandpa MRO to rain on my parade.

    Modern systems are getting shocking low on power draw, especailly on the lit

    I used to keep old pc's running to do simple tasks like network storage or routing. Single board computers serve the same prupose and use way less
    power than an old P4

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  • From cr1mson@VERT/STEPPING to Nightfox on Wed Mar 9 14:32:29 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Nightfox to Vlk-451 on Wed Mar 02 2022 09:15 am

    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Vlk-451 to Nightfox on Tue Mar 01 2022 11:19 pm

    My main computer at home is a desktop PC I built, and is currently running Windows 11. I turn it off when I'm not using it - and it's also plugged into a power strip, which I turn off after the PC powers down. The next time I turn it on, it looks to me like it starts up cold (not from a sleep state).

    Don't forget to replace your power strip after the first power surge because that's about all it's good for. I'd invest in a USP.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to cr1mson on Wed Mar 9 14:04:26 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: cr1mson to Nightfox on Wed Mar 09 2022 07:32 pm

    Don't forget to replace your power strip after the first power surge because that's about all it's good for. I'd invest in a USP.

    I've never heard that about power strips.. I've seen power strips power back on after a power surge and they've been fine.
    Also I think you mean UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply) - I have one of those too.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to cr1mson on Wed Mar 9 18:05:33 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: cr1mson to Nightfox on Wed Mar 09 2022 07:32 pm


    Don't forget to replace your power strip after the first power surge because that's about all it's good for. I'd invest in a USP.


    i dont even know of a powerstrip ever protecting a device in a power surge. i've know of about 5 times where it failed.
    i think the old school ones with the big fuse in them where you push the button to reset it are more reliable.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to cr1mson on Fri Mar 11 17:56:40 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: cr1mson to Nightfox on Wed Mar 09 2022 07:32 pm

    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Vlk-451 to Nightfox on Tue Mar 01 2022 11:19 pm

    My main computer at home is a desktop PC I built, and is currently
    running Windows 11. I turn it off when I'm not using it - and it's
    also plugged into a power strip, which I turn off after the PC
    powers down. The next time I turn it on, it looks to me like it
    starts up cold (not from a sleep state).

    Don't forget to replace your power strip after the first power surge because that's about all it's good for. I'd invest in a USP.

    I still use a powerstrip I bought in the 90's for my DesktopPC, never had an issue.

    ... It is bad luck to be superstitious.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sat Mar 12 05:11:00 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: MRO to cr1mson on Wed Mar 09 2022 11:05 pm

    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: cr1mson to Nightfox on Wed Mar 09 2022 07:32 pm


    Don't forget to replace your power strip after the first power surge beca that's about all it's good for. I'd invest in a USP.


    i dont even know of a powerstrip ever protecting a device in a power surge. i've know of about 5 times where it failed.
    i think the old school ones with the big fuse in them where you push the but

    A UPS or other device that could allow some level of isolation from the
    outlet would be safe. I've had cheap power strips pop,but only when someone did something silly such as put a space heater and cofee maker and microwave
    on the same circuit. When a pc would die, it was because of bad capacitors
    or a switing power supply would power down on it's own.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Sat Mar 12 12:35:06 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sat Mar 12 2022 10:11 am

    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: MRO to cr1mson on Wed Mar 09 2022 11:05 pm

    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: cr1mson to Nightfox on Wed Mar 09 2022 07:32 pm


    Don't forget to replace your power strip after the first power surge beca that's about all it's good for. I'd invest in a USP.


    i dont even know of a powerstrip ever protecting a device in a power surge. i've know of about 5 times where it failed.
    i think the old school ones with the big fuse in them where you push the but

    A UPS or other device that could allow some level of isolation from the outlet would be safe. I've had cheap power strips pop,but only when someone did something silly such as put a space heater and cofee maker and microwave on the same circuit. When a pc would die, it was because of bad capacitors or a switing power supply would power down on it's own.

    yeah but if it's something fast like a lightning strike, i dont think it can break the circuit fast enough.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sun Mar 13 18:54:00 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sat Mar 12 2022 05:35 pm

    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sat Mar 12 2022 10:11 am

    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: MRO to cr1mson on Wed Mar 09 2022 11:05 pm

    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: cr1mson to Nightfox on Wed Mar 09 2022 07:32 pm


    Don't forget to replace your power strip after the first power surg beca that's about all it's good for. I'd invest in a USP.


    i dont even know of a powerstrip ever protecting a device in a power surge. i've know of about 5 times where it failed.
    i think the old school ones with the big fuse in them where you push t but

    A UPS or other device that could allow some level of isolation from the outlet would be safe. I've had cheap power strips pop,but only when some did something silly such as put a space heater and cofee maker and microw on the same circuit. When a pc would die, it was because of bad capacito or a switing power supply would power down on it's own.

    yeah but if it's something fast like a lightning strike, i dont think it can

    Ups' also do line conditioning and filtering, which mean a suddent transient would be shunted by an inductive or capacitive filter, and the battery in the UPS will smooth out any sudden dips in the line.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Mon Mar 14 01:00:55 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sun Mar 13 2022 10:54 pm

    yeah but if it's something fast like a lightning strike, i dont think it can

    Ups' also do line conditioning and filtering, which mean a suddent transient would be shunted by an inductive or capacitive filter, and the battery in the UPS will smooth out any sudden dips in the line.

    yeah but you think it can stop lightning? think about the speed and power of lightning.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Mon Mar 14 05:16:00 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Mar 14 2022 05:00 am

    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sun Mar 13 2022 10:54 pm

    yeah but if it's something fast like a lightning strike, i dont think can

    Ups' also do line conditioning and filtering, which mean a suddent transi would be shunted by an inductive or capacitive filter, and the battery in the UPS will smooth out any sudden dips in the line.

    yeah but you think it can stop lightning? think about the speed and power of

    As stated before, the UPs has filter caps that will shunt the sudden high frequency spikes to ground. This will burn up those caps along with switching diodes and destroy the UPS immediately. Whatever does get through can be arrested in the computer's switching power supply.

    That only applies if the strike goes through the power line. Modem strikes,
    or lightning through phone lines will trash the modem but rarely go past that on newer machines. When modems actaually connected to serial lines, DTR and RTS support circuits would blow, and the UART might get taken out. The RTS
    and DTS I'm referring to are basically voltage converters used to convert the pc's signals to external transmision standards.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Denn on Sun Mar 13 05:02:00 2022
    Denn wrote to cr1mson <=-

    I still use a powerstrip I bought in the 90's for my DesktopPC, never
    had an issue.

    You will the next time you experience a second power surge, as it won't be able to isolate the equipment plugged into it a second time.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Mon Mar 14 09:38:28 2022
    Re: Can you trust your PC?
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Mar 14 2022 09:16 am

    battery in the UPS will smooth out any sudden dips in the line.

    yeah but you think it can stop lightning? think about the speed and

    power
    of

    As stated before, the UPs has filter caps that will shunt the sudden high frequency spikes to ground. This will burn up those caps along with switching diodes and destroy the UPS immediately. Whatever does get through can be arrested in the computer's switching power supply.

    That only applies if the strike goes through the power line. Modem

    strikes,
    or lightning through phone lines will trash the modem but rarely go past that on newer machines. When modems actaually connected to serial lines, DTR and RTS support circuits would blow, and the UART might get taken out. The RTS
    and DTS I'm referring to are basically voltage converters used to convert the pc's signals to external transmision standards.


    hello, that lightning will blow shit up.
    not matter what it is, the shit is blown up. old stuff, new stuff.
    blown up.

    i worked at a place that serviced equipment that sometimes had lightning strikes.
    dont believe what people on the internet tell you. it's not arrested. it flows through. it's that fast.

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