What is everyone's opinion on Zorin OS (based on Ubuntu) to run Synchronet on? I am a Linux newbie... I want to get away from Windows on my lil server machine. I am looking at the 32bit version since the machine only has 2GB RAM.



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Re: Zorin OS
By: bgdjr to All on Sat Dec 03 2016 01:00 pm

What is everyone's opinion on Zorin OS (based on Ubuntu) to run Synchronet o I am a Linux newbie... I want to get away from Windows on my lil server machine. I am looking at the 32bit version since the machine only has 2GB R

Never ran Synch on it,but Zorin is a nice Distro. I'm running Peppermint OS right now. Very fast and light on resources.
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Re: Zorin OS
By: bgdjr to All on Sat Dec 03 2016 01:00 pm

What is everyone's opinion on Zorin OS (based on Ubuntu) to run Synchronet on? I am a Linux newbie... I want to get away from Windows on my lil server machine. I am looking at the 32bit version since the machine only has 2GB RAM.

check out xfce or just run regular ubuntu if you're a beginner.
only play around with stuff like zorin in a vm until you decide if you want it. there's a lot of ubuntu offshoots like this.
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bgdjr wrote to All <=-

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What is everyone's opinion on Zorin OS (based on Ubuntu) to run
Synchronet on? I am a Linux newbie... I want to get away from Windows
on my lil server machine. I am looking at the 32bit version since the machine only has 2GB RAM.

I was helping out a guy with Zorin and it was a total clusterduck - that
distro is strange and kept breaking at the weirdest point.

My advice would be to go with something relatively userfriendly with a
large user base (which means that if you come across a problem, chances
are somebody else has as well, so a simply Google search will usually
yield answers).

My personal favourite for low-end gear like that (or small VMs) is Lubuntu, give it a shot, see how you get along.

There's a pretty helpful (if slightly odd) FB group for peple starting
out on Linux: https://www.facebook.com/groups/linuxmail/

Sampsa

PS: I know there are probably lighter distros than Lubuntu but I think it's pretty light and newbie-friendly.


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On 2016-12-03 09:00 PM, bgdjr wrote:

What is everyone's opinion on Zorin OS (based on Ubuntu) to run Synchronet on?
I am a Linux newbie... I want to get away from Windows on my lil server machine. I am looking at the 32bit version since the machine only has 2GB RAM.

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Maybe try Debian? or something like that. Debian will give you a good
feel for GNOME and the GNU/Linux utilities, that is if you can get it installed with the needed drivers.

I use Trisquel though. Maybe you should try out Ubuntu?

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Deavmi wrote to bgdjr <=-

On 2016-12-03 09:00 PM, bgdjr wrote:

What is everyone's opinion on Zorin OS (based on Ubuntu) to run Synchronet

on?

I am a Linux newbie... I want to get away from Windows on my lil server machine. I am looking at the 32bit version since the machine only has 2GB

RAM

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Maybe try Debian? or something like that. Debian will give you a good
feel for GNOME and the GNU/Linux utilities, that is if you can get it installed with the needed drivers.

I use Trisquel though. Maybe you should try out Ubuntu?

I'd go with Xubuntu - dead easy to install, the GUI is one of the better ones etc etc.

Hell with virtual machines he could try a whole bunch out from CentOS to
Gentoo lol..

Sampsa


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On 2016-12-04 04:51 AM, Sampsa wrote:

bgdjr wrote to All <=-

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What is everyone's opinion on Zorin OS (based on Ubuntu) to run Synchronet on? I am a Linux newbie... I want to get away from Windows
on my lil server machine. I am looking at the 32bit version since the machine only has 2GB RAM.

I was helping out a guy with Zorin and it was a total clusterduck - that distro is strange and kept breaking at the weirdest point.

My advice would be to go with something relatively userfriendly with a
large user base (which means that if you come across a problem, chances
are somebody else has as well, so a simply Google search will usually
yield answers).

My personal favourite for low-end gear like that (or small VMs) is Lubuntu, give it a shot, see how you get along.

There's a pretty helpful (if slightly odd) FB group for peple starting
out on Linux: https://www.facebook.com/groups/linuxmail/

Sampsa

PS: I know there are probably lighter distros than Lubuntu but I think it's pretty light and newbie-friendly.

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Ubuntu is the way to go. I used it when stating out and many people
still use it, nothing wrong with it. Good system for lots of things.

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Hello Sampsa,

On 04 Dec 16 13:47, Sampsa wrote to Deavmi:

I'd go with Xubuntu - dead easy to install, the GUI is one of the
better ones etc etc.

XFCE and LXDE both remind of of the old Windows 3.11 and OS/2 look and feel with their icon sets, which I honestly can't stand the look of these days. I'd probably go with ubuntu-mate these days for a lightweight Ubuntu desktop.

Hell with virtual machines he could try a whole bunch out from CentOS
to Gentoo lol..

Exactly. And if one is interested in trying out Gentoo, do it FIRST and before any of the easier distros. It will help you learn and understand Linux and your
CLI environment much deeper than most other distros. Then, when you decide to try something else like *buntu, you'll be amazingly surprised how easy Linux can really be (rather than bashing your head on the wall for days while trying to compile your base system and a GUI), and probably never go back to Gentoo ever again. :) :)

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Sampsa wrote:

Deavmi wrote to bgdjr <=-

De> On 2016-12-03 09:00 PM, bgdjr wrote:
> What is everyone's opinion on Zorin OS (based on Ubuntu) to run Synchronet
on?

> I am a Linux newbie... I want to get away from Windows on my lil server
> machine. I am looking at the 32bit version since the machine only has 2GB
RAM
De> .
>
>
>
> Barry G. Davis, Jr.
> SysOp - BGD Consulting and Graphics
> telnet://bgdcag.synchro.net:2332
> http://bgdcag.synchro.net:8181
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De> Maybe try Debian? or something like that. Debian will give you a good
De> feel for GNOME and the GNU/Linux utilities, that is if you can get it
De> installed with the needed drivers.

De> I use Trisquel though. Maybe you should try out Ubuntu?

I'd go with Xubuntu - dead easy to install, the GUI is one of the better ones etc etc.

Hell with virtual machines he could try a whole bunch out from CentOS to Gentoo lol..

Sampsa

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I like Ubuntu MATE. Simple and awesome.

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Sampsa wrote:

Deavmi wrote to bgdjr <=-

De> On 2016-12-03 09:00 PM, bgdjr wrote:
> What is everyone's opinion on Zorin OS (based on Ubuntu) to run Synchronet
on?

> I am a Linux newbie... I want to get away from Windows on my lil server
> machine. I am looking at the 32bit version since the machine only has 2GB
RAM
De> .
>
>
>
> Barry G. Davis, Jr.
> SysOp - BGD Consulting and Graphics
> telnet://bgdcag.synchro.net:2332
> http://bgdcag.synchro.net:8181
>
> ---
> n.' Synchronet
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De> Maybe try Debian? or something like that. Debian will give you a good
De> feel for GNOME and the GNU/Linux utilities, that is if you can get it
De> installed with the needed drivers.

De> I use Trisquel though. Maybe you should try out Ubuntu?

I'd go with Xubuntu - dead easy to install, the GUI is one of the better ones etc etc.

Hell with virtual machines he could try a whole bunch out from CentOS to Gentoo lol..

Sampsa

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Yeah, he could try anything with a VM. Arch?

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Deavmi wrote to Sampsa <=-

Yeah, he could try anything with a VM. Arch?

Arch isn't that newbie-friendly, but I tried out Manjaro (Arch derivative
I believe) and that wasn't bad at all to install.

Basically distros are distros - the main difference your average user will notice is the command needed to add/remove/search for packages.

Of course in a VM environment, once he become comfortable enough with UNIX
in general maybe a Slackware install and building stuff from scratch with ./configure ; make ; make install could be fun and interesting, to learn
a little about how stuff works under the hood.

Sampsa


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Ubuntu is the way to go. I used it when stating out and many people
still use it, nothing wrong with it. Good system for lots of things.
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Agreed. Although, these days I typically install Ubuntu server, and then
build from there, mainly as I have no need for all the cruft most DE's bring
to the OS as I use i3 window manager.


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Re: Zorin OS
By: bgdjr to All on Sat Dec 03 2016 01:00 pm

What is everyone's opinion on Zorin OS (based on Ubuntu) to run Synchronet o I am a Linux newbie... I want to get away from Windows on my lil server machine. I am looking at the 32bit version since the machine only has 2GB R

Barry G. Davis, Jr.
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I haven't used it but I've talked to a few people online that supposedly used it. I think it's biggest 'selling point' right now is in how it mimics a Windows environment. If that's not something that's important to you than I would probably stick with one of the distros with a bit more 'mindshare'. Desktop distros such as Ubuntu or Mint. Mageia, while not quite as well known, is a great desktop linux.

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Re: Zorin OS
By: Chris to bgdjr on Wed Dec 07 2016 10:48 pm

I haven't used it but I've talked to a few people online that supposedly used it. I think it's biggest 'selling point' right now is in how it mimics a Windows environment. If that's not something that's important to you than I would probably stick with one of the distros with a bit more 'mindshare'. Desktop distros such as Ubuntu or Mint. Mageia, while not quite as well known, is a great desktop linux.

it's never going to stop happening, but i wish some of these distros would stop trying to copy the look and feel of windows. if people wanted windows, they'd just run windows.
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On 2016-12-06 09:24 PM, Sampsa wrote:

Deavmi wrote to Sampsa <=-

Yeah, he could try anything with a VM. Arch?

Arch isn't that newbie-friendly, but I tried out Manjaro (Arch derivative
I believe) and that wasn't bad at all to install.

Basically distros are distros - the main difference your average user will notice is the command needed to add/remove/search for packages.

Of course in a VM environment, once he become comfortable enough with UNIX
in general maybe a Slackware install and building stuff from scratch with ./configure ; make ; make install could be fun and interesting, to learn
a little about how stuff works under the hood.

Sampsa

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There is Antergos but it is a rolling release so it may break.

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Re: Zorin OS
By: Mro to Chris on Wed Dec 07 2016 23:06:21

it's never going to stop happening, but i wish some of these distros would s

top

trying to copy the look and feel of windows. if people wanted windows, they

'd

just run windows.

A-flippen-men, Mro. I have said the same thing about themers who tries to make Linux look extactly like another operating system (Windows, Mac OSX, et. al.).

I would think that the point of theming is to come up with a new look.

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Re: Zorin OS
By: Mro to Chris on Wed Dec 07 2016 11:06 pm

it's never going to stop happening, but i wish some of these distros would s trying to copy the look and feel of windows. if people wanted windows, they just run windows.

I understand why they do it, but the crowd they are aiming for is really limited. I think the only users that would gain anything out of this would be corporate users who are being force migrated to a Linux desktop. Even then there is going to be an element of relearning things, so I don't think they are accompolishing as much as they think.

Outside of that, I think most users who are migrating to Linux are trying to get away from Windows for a reason. They either don't like it, or they are still using Windows while trying out Linux out of curiosity (which technically isn't a migration but...).

So yeah, I think Linux distros should focus on creating their own identity (or adopting another distros identity) rather than trying to be Windows. It sounds enticing on the surface, but it really isn't all that.

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