So I'm running a Ubuntu box, and I killed the graphical bits and just made it so I can SSH (with key) from my Windows desktop using PuTTY, but if I want to get the graphical look back is running something like "Xming X Server" the route I want to use, or can I startup xwindows on the Ubuntu system and remote connect? Basically I just want to be able to run stuff like gtkmonitor instead of umonitor so I can keep an eye on system status, or run a couple random xwindows bits for fun.

Any help appreciated. Is there something better than PuTTY to facilitate all this? I remember pFort mentioned something the other month, but I can't remember/find what he was describing.

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Re: "not smart" linux questions.
By: Android8675 to all on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:14 am

So I'm running a Ubuntu box, and I killed the graphical bits and just made i so I can SSH (with key) from my Windows desktop using PuTTY, but if I want t get the graphical look back is running something like "Xming X Server" the route I want to use, or can I startup xwindows on the Ubuntu system and remo connect? Basically I just want to be able to run stuff like gtkmonitor inste of umonitor so I can keep an eye on system status, or run a couple random xwindows bits for fun.

Any help appreciated. Is there something better than PuTTY to facilitate all this? I remember pFort mentioned something the other month, but I can't remember/find what he was describing.

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I am not a Xserver master, but afaik, you need an SSH tunnel with x forwarding enabled.

https://www.howtogeek.com/428266/how-to-remotely-open-a-gui-application-with-pu tty/

Alternatively you could use an VNC solution. If you are just going to use a couple of graphical applications you are better off with SSH x forwarding anyway, in my opinion. VNC is basically running a full graphical system on the server which then streams the graphical session as a video to your workstation.

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Android8675 wrote:

So I'm running a Ubuntu box, and I killed the graphical bits and just made it so I can SSH (with key) from my Windows desktop using PuTTY, but if I want to get the graphical look back is running something like "Xming X Server" the route I want to use, or can I startup xwindows on the Ubuntu system and remote
connect? Basically I just want to be able to run stuff like gtkmonitor instead
of umonitor so I can keep an eye on system status, or run a couple random xwindows bits for fun.

Any help appreciated. Is there something better than PuTTY to facilitate all this? I remember pFort mentioned something the other month, but I can't remember/find what he was describing.

You don't have to have the xserver running just as long as the component are there. If you had it running and changed it from graphical to multiuser target then make sure X11 forwards is configured in putty or whatever ssh client you're using. You may also need to enable it in ssh_config and/or sshd_config in
/etc/ssh but not possitive.

I installed Ubuntu server without any X packages installed and got enough installed so that I can run the GTK stuff. So yes, you can do what you want with putty, which is just fine, Xming and your Linux box.

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Android8675 wrote to all <=-

So I'm running a Ubuntu box, and I killed the graphical bits and just

^^^^^^
First mistake <grins> Ok, I am biased towards RHEL-based distros like
CentOS and Fedora, but have never had any luck with the modern releases
of Ubuntu (give me back my 7.xx version of Ubuntu and I will run it all
day long <smiles>).

made it so I can SSH (with key) from my Windows desktop using PuTTY,
but if I want to get the graphical look back is running something like "Xming X Server" the route I want to use, or can I startup xwindows on
the Ubuntu system and remote connect? Basically I just want to be able
to run stuff like gtkmonitor instead of umonitor so I can keep an eye
on system status, or run a couple random xwindows bits for fun.

PuTTY and XMink are, in my experience, your best solution. We use it
where I work so that our developers can SSH into our application server
and use XMing to run things like Eclipse, Firefox, etc, through the SSH
tunnel while still having the command line.

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Re: "not smart" linux questio
By: Warp 4 to Android8675 on Tue Oct 06 2020 05:08 pm

Android8675 wrote to all <=-

So I'm running a Ubuntu box, and I killed the graphical bits and just

^^^^^^
First mistake <grins> Ok, I am biased towards RHEL-based distros like CentOS and Fedora, but have never had any luck with the modern releases
of Ubuntu (give me back my 7.xx version of Ubuntu and I will run it all
day long <smiles>).

made it so I can SSH (with key) from my Windows desktop using PuTTY, but if I want to get the graphical look back is running something like "Xming X Server" the route I want to use, or can I startup
xwindows on
the Ubuntu system and remote connect? Basically I just want to be able to run stuff like gtkmonitor instead of umonitor so I can keep an eye on system status, or run a couple random xwindows bits for fun.

PuTTY and XMink are, in my experience, your best solution. We use it
where I work so that our developers can SSH into our application server
and use XMing to run things like Eclipse, Firefox, etc, through the SSH tunnel while still having the command line.

... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!

On top of that, I'd use Vcxsrv instead of XMing, as Vcxsrv support
hardware accelerated rendering.

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Re: "not smart" linux questio
By: Warp 4 to Android8675 on Tue Oct 06 2020 05:08 pm

So I'm running a Ubuntu box, and I killed the graphical bits and just

^^^^^^
First mistake <grins> Ok, I am biased towards RHEL-based distros like CentOS and Fedora, but have never had any luck with the modern releases
of Ubuntu (give me back my 7.xx version of Ubuntu and I will run it all
day long <smiles>).

So I've been tinkering with Unix since SCO Unix, but it wasn't until Debian/Ubuntu that I started to really like using *nix like OSs. (That and I'm just tired of Windows bullshit). I used RedHat for a short while (couldn't tell you what version. 3? 4?). So what's RHEL mean? What makes Cent/Fedora different? Keep in mind I am not super into kernal hacking or doing weird shit. I can build source if I have a walkthrough/INSTALL file on hand, but I'm not a genious guy.

PuTTY and XMink are, in my experience, your best solution. We use it
where I work so that our developers can SSH into our application server
and use XMing to run things like Eclipse, Firefox, etc, through the SSH tunnel while still having the command line.

I got Xming working at my work PC, but what kind of bandwidth do you need? my upstream pipe from home is like 10-15mbps so not amazingly fast. Seems really sluggish, but maybe I have something setup incorrectly?

-A.

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Re: "not smart" linux questio
By: Android8675 to Warp 4 on Wed Oct 07 2020 08:12 am

First mistake <grins> Ok, I am biased towards RHEL-based distros like CentOS and Fedora, but have never had any luck with the modern releases of Ubuntu (give me back my 7.xx version of Ubuntu and I will run it all day long <smiles>).

So I've been tinkering with Unix since SCO Unix, but it wasn't until Debian/Ubuntu that I started to really like using *nix like OSs. (That and I'm just tired of Windows bullshit). I used RedHat for a short while (couldn't tell you what version. 3? 4?). So what's RHEL mean?

RedHat Enterprise Linux.

What makes Cent/Fedora different?

Centos is the community/free version of RHEL. Fedora is the community/free version of RedHat Linux for desktop and server (not sure how different Fedora server is from Centos in that regard).

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On 10-07-20 13:15, Digital Man wrote to Android8675 <=-

Centos is the community/free version of RHEL. Fedora is the
community/free version of RedHat Linux for desktop and server (not sure how different Fedora server is from Centos in that regard).

Fedora is also the development platform for Red Hat, and uses newer package versions. Fedora also has a much more rapid release cycle, reflecting its purpose for trying out updates.


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Re: "not smart" linux questio
By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Wed Oct 07 2020 01:15 pm

What makes Cent/Fedora different?

Centos is the community/free version of RHEL. Fedora is the community/free version of RedHat Linux for desktop and server (not sure how different Fedora server is from Centos in that regard).

I've run both on my Linux server. Fedora server gets updates and new kernels all the time, which can be obnoxious. CentOS/RHEL have a longer release cycle and don't receive as many updates. I was having issues with my Plex server and Virtualbox with CentOS/RHEL when 8 was released initially. I switched to Fedora and it works fine. Those issues are probably fixed but I feel no motivation to switch back.

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On 10/8/2020 6:19 AM, BlaZ wrote:

Re: "not smart" linux questio
By: Digital Man to Android8675 on Wed Oct 07 2020 01:15 pm

> > What makes Cent/Fedora different?
>
> Centos is the community/free version of RHEL. Fedora is the community/free
> version of RedHat Linux for desktop and server (not sure how different
> Fedora server is from Centos in that regard).

I've run both on my Linux server. Fedora server gets updates and new kernels all the time, which can be obnoxious. CentOS/RHEL have a longer release cycle and don't receive as many updates. I was having issues with my Plex server and Virtualbox with CentOS/RHEL when 8 was released initially. I switched to Fedora and it works fine. Those issues are probably fixed but I feel no motivation to switch back.

IIRC, Fedora is like Ubuntu is such that it gets more frequent updates
from upstream sources. CentOS 8 has a "Stream" version which is
basically, from what I can tell, their version of Fedora.

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On 10/7/2020 11:01 AM, anthk wrote:

On top of that, I'd use Vcxsrv instead of XMing, as Vcxsrv support
hardware accelerated rendering.

Was just playing with vcxsrv the other day for gui from wsl2, still need
to figure out pulseaudio though... then a script to get those and linux
gui apps better integrated.

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Re: "not smart" linux questio
By: anthk to Warp 4 on Wed Oct 07 2020 11:01 am

On top of that, I'd use Vcxsrv instead of XMing, as Vcxsrv support
hardware accelerated rendering.

yeah, that seems better. thanks.

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