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However there are examples where say now a toaster can use the Linux
kernel (as the toaster company does not want to write their own kernel,
time and money reasons) therefore they use Linux but might not
necessarily use GNU as they might use their own utilities or a mix of
both. Then you might even have GNU/Linux/ToasterUtils
Then you might even have GNU/Linux/ToasterUtils.
--- DEAVMI wrote --
However there are examples where say now a toaster can use the Linux
kernel (as the toaster company does not want to write their own kernel,
time and money reasons) therefore they use Linux but might not
necessarily use GNU as they might use their own utilities or a mix of
both. Then you might even have GNU/Linux/ToasterUtils
That's how you end up with artificially intellegent talking toasters with feelings. Is that what you want? Because that, is what you will get.
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Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Deavmi to Vk3jed on Mon Nov 21 2016 03:42 pm
Then you might even have GNU/Linux/ToasterUtils.
Just don't call it linux/ToasterUtils/GNU or Stallman might write a web page about your product.
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That's how you end up with artificially intellegent talking toasters with feelings. Is that what you want? Because that, is what you will get.
Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: mark firestone to DEAVMI on Thu Nov 24 2016 02:51 pm
That's how you end up with artificially intellegent talking toasters with feelings. Is that what you want? Because that, is what you will get.
You hit the nail on the head. I can't get my overly sensitive linux toaster to
shut the hell up.
;-)
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Deavmi wrote to Chris <=-
Lol. I am not really an IoT person. I do like it if I could build it myself but for small things, not massive dependence on technology. That
is where humanity will fail (or have we already in the eyes of our ancestors). For me being overly dependent on technology would be bad.
Idk though. The human condition is complicated and hard to avoid.
Chris wrote to mark firestone <=-
You hit the nail on the head. I can't get my overly sensitive linux toaster to shut the hell up.
Chris wrote to mark firestone <=-
You hit the nail on the head. I can't get my overly sensitive linux toaster to shut the hell up.
I tried to make French toast in mine and now it sits in the corner,
sulking.
... "I speak to machines with the voice of Humanity..."
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Lol. I am not really an IoT person. I do like it if I could build it
myself but for small things, not massive dependence on technology. That
is where humanity will fail (or have we already in the eyes of our ancestors). For me being overly dependent on technology would be bad.
Idk though. The human condition is complicated and hard to avoid.
Chris wrote to mark firestone <=-
You hit the nail on the head. I can't get my overly sensitive linux toaster to shut the hell up.
I tried to make French toast in mine and now it sits in the corner,
sulking.
... "I speak to machines with the voice of Humanity..."
While I'm far from a technophobe, I'm a firm believer in the idea that as ou devices get smarted we get dumber. A lot dumber.-------
While I'm far from a technophobe, I'm a firm believer in the idea that as our devices get smarted we get dumber. A lot dumber.
Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Deavmi to Chris on Sat Nov 26 2016 11:19 am
Lol. I am not really an IoT person. I do like it if I could build it myself but for small things, not massive dependence on technology. That
is where humanity will fail (or have we already in the eyes of our ancestors). For me being overly dependent on technology would be bad.
Idk though. The human condition is complicated and hard to avoid.
While I'm far from a technophobe, I'm a firm believer in the idea that as our devices get smarted we get dumber. A lot dumber.
At the very least I think we're getting the attention span of cats.
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Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Chris to Deavmi on Sun Nov 27 2016 11:17 pm
While I'm far from a technophobe, I'm a firm believer in the idea that as ou-------
devices get smarted we get dumber. A lot dumber.
And to drive that point home, I managed to misspell smarteR above.
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Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Chris to Deavmi on Sun Nov 27 2016 11:17 pm
While I'm far from a technophobe, I'm a firm believer in the idea that as
our devices get smarted we get dumber. A lot dumber.
I agree, at least for 90% of the people who have access to these products. Had
a lady just bow up and stop in front of me on a four lane road the other day, and she was in the "fast" lane. I finally got into the right line when I was able to get over, glanced over to make sure she was'nt stroking out or something, she was answering her damn cell phone. the stupidity amazes me.. they say people drive bad in LA, nah... come to Dalton GA.. we have some idiots.
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Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Deavmi to Chris on Mon Nov 28 2016 08:15 pm
VA USA
We are getting dumb. That's why I avoid this shit. I want to run my
life, not have an algorithm run it.
are people becoming more dumb, or are we just being dumb in new ways, and these
ways stick out like a sore thumb because they arent the usual.
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We are getting dumb. That's why I avoid this shit. I want to run my
life, not have an algorithm run it.
are people becoming more dumb, or are we just being dumb in new ways, and th ways stick out like a sore thumb because they arent the usual.
Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Mro to Deavmi on Mon Nov 28 2016 04:33 pm
are people becoming more dumb, or are we just being dumb in new ways, and th
ways stick out like a sore thumb because they arent the usual.
Leave it to us to combine stupidity and innovation in such a fashion lol.
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Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Deavmi to Chris on Mon Nov 28 2016 08:15 pm
We are getting dumb. That's why I avoid this shit. I want to run my
life, not have an algorithm run it.
I can understand it. I actually don't hate the technology. In many ways I've seen a lot of boyhood wishes fulfilled when E-Readers and digital music options
came along (yeah, as a kid I wasn't asking for all that much in hindsight). The fact that some perfectly good older technology and more importantly, physical media is getting pushed out as a result gives me mixed feelings.
That said, it's what we as a society do with the technology is what burns my ass. Just with cellphones alone, it's become acceptable to behave like complete
idiots, when just a few years ago people wouldn't think of acting that way.
Plus social media makes us act bolder than we really are, but I guess that's a
topic for another day.
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Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Deavmi to Chris on Mon Nov 28 2016 08:15 pm
We are getting dumb. That's why I avoid this shit. I want to run my
life, not have an algorithm run it.
I can understand it. I actually don't hate the technology. In many ways I've seen a lot of boyhood wishes fulfilled when E-Readers and digital music options
came along (yeah, as a kid I wasn't asking for all that much in hindsight). The fact that some perfectly good older technology and more importantly, physical media is getting pushed out as a result gives me mixed feelings.
That said, it's what we as a society do with the technology is what burns my ass. Just with cellphones alone, it's become acceptable to behave like complete
idiots, when just a few years ago people wouldn't think of acting that way.
Plus social media makes us act bolder than we really are, but I guess that's a
topic for another day.
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I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a flash drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so much
BUT they are cheaper to replace).
Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:49 pm
I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a flash drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so much BUT they are cheaper to replace).
That is if you have computers that can actually read/have a CD drive :-( Can't say I'm happy about that trend
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On 2016-12-01 07:17 AM, Gruven wrote:Good old SATA CD/DVD drive.
Re: Re: What is Linux?Yeah. I have a CD reader and writer.
By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:49 pm
I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.flash
Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a
drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not somuch
BUT they are cheaper to replace).
That is if you have computers that can actually read/have a CD drive :-(
Can't say I'm happy about that trend
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I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a flash drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so much
BUT they are cheaper to replace).
I guess so. Computers have made us stupid but hey some become smarter
with it, because research is easier and there are now jobs in the hard thinking world of computing.
I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a flash drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so much
BUT they are cheaper to replace).
"Plus social media makes us act bolder than we really are, but I guess that's a
topic for another day. "
I guess so. Start a new post maybe?
Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:48 pm
I guess so. Computers have made us stupid but hey some become smarter
with it, because research is easier and there are now jobs in the hard thinking world of computing.
Computers help us in that they put so much information at our fingertips, so there is a lot of potential there that we could only dream of when I was a youngin.
The downside is, they put SOOO much information at our fingertips. So much that
we don't know how to handle it all and end up giving up, or switching to porn (from what I've heard...).
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Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:49 pm
I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a flash drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so much BUT they are cheaper to replace).
cds get cd rot. i like flash disks for installing oses. so easy and beats using a cd or a dvd.
i threw out all my cds and dvds and store stuff on old harddrives with redundant backups.
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Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:50 pm
"Plus social media makes us act bolder than we really are, but I guess that's a
topic for another day. "
I guess so. Start a new post maybe?
Good idea :-)
I'll have to remember to start a thread in the General Discussion section on how social media makes us 10 feet tall and 10 feet wide and bulletproof.
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Well I mean. I will burn a disk regularly enough you know. I won't keep
a disk with 10.04 LTS on it (or whatever the version is). So I can stay away from CD rot for that. I only use disks for ISOs.
Re: Re: What is Linux?
By: Deavmi to Mro on Fri Dec 02 2016 05:02 pm
Well I mean. I will burn a disk regularly enough you know. I won't keep
a disk with 10.04 LTS on it (or whatever the version is). So I can stay away from CD rot for that. I only use disks for ISOs.
i lost some things i will never get back again because i trusted cds and dvds.
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Good point. What did you use the CDs and DVDs for?
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