Is there a reason why bbs.menu_exist() does not allow using a directory before the file name like bbs.menu()?

bbs.menu("dir\file_base") works for when I want to specify an ansi outside of the menu directory (I use it with user.command_shell a lot) but bbs.menu_exists("dir\file_base") always comes back negative.

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Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: nolageek to Digital Man on Mon Jan 13 2020 02:50 pm

Is there a reason why bbs.menu_exist() does not allow using a directory before the file name like bbs.menu()?

bbs.menu("dir\file_base") works for when I want to specify an ansi outside of the menu directory (I use it with user.command_shell a lot) but bbs.menu_exists("dir\file_base") always comes back negative.

bbs.menu_exists() with a sub-directory specified should work fine. See xtrn_sec.js as an example which check for the existence (and displays) text/menu/xtrn/*.*.

The correct path-separator to use in JS strings is a forward slash (/) not a backslash (\), so perhaps that's the issue?

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Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: Digital Man to nolageek on Mon Jan 13 2020 02:26 pm

bbs.menu_exists() with a sub-directory specified should work fine. See xtrn_sec.js as an example which check for the existence (and displays) text/menu/xtrn/*.*.

I can't figure out why this code doesn't work then:

function mystMenu(file) {
// check for 'file' in current command shell menu dir and if not found use
// 'mystique' menu directory

if (bbs.menu_exists(user.command_shell + '/' + file)) {
bbs.menu(user.command_shell + '/' + file);
} else {
bbs.menu('mystique/' + file);
}
}

If I then use mystMenu('mainmenu'); in my shell, it always shows the menu from the mystique directoy - even though they exist in both.

I've tried combinations of testing for !bbs.menu_exists, etc.. it always comes back showing the mystique one. If I take the bbs.menu_exists test out, it works.

I've been using this for the last couple of years, which works but I want to clean it up a bit cause it's a bit messy:

function mystMenu(file) {
var ansiDir = system.text_dir + 'menu/' + user.command_shell + '/';
if (!file_exists(ansiDir + file + '.ans') && !file_exists(ansiDir + file + '.asc'))
var ansiDir = system.text_dir + 'menu/mystique/';
bbs.menu(ansiDir + file);
}


Thanks for your assistance, as always!

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Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: nolageek to Digital Man on Tue Jan 14 2020 09:44 am

Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: Digital Man to nolageek on Mon Jan 13 2020 02:26 pm

bbs.menu_exists() with a sub-directory specified should work fine. See xtrn_sec.js as an example which check for the existence (and displays) text/menu/xtrn/*.*.

I can't figure out why this code doesn't work then:

function mystMenu(file) {
// check for 'file' in current command shell menu dir and if not found use // 'mystique' menu directory

if (bbs.menu_exists(user.command_shell + '/' + file)) {
bbs.menu(user.command_shell + '/' + file);
} else {
bbs.menu('mystique/' + file);
}
}

If I then use mystMenu('mainmenu'); in my shell, it always shows the menu from the mystique directoy - even though they exist in both.

Does the file text/menu/<shell>/mainmenu.asc exist? The .msg or .asc version of a menu file must exist for bbs.menu_exists() to return true.



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Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: Digital Man to nolageek on Tue Jan 14 2020 09:55 am

Does the file text/menu/<shell>/mainmenu.asc exist? The .msg or .asc version of a menu file must exist for bbs.menu_exists() to return true.

mainmenu.ans exists - does bbs.menu_exists() test for .msg or .asc but not .ans? That would explain it, but why would it not check for the same file types that bbs.menu() displays?

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Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: Digital Man to nolageek on Tue Jan 14 2020 09:55 am

Does the file text/menu/<shell>/mainmenu.asc exist? The .msg or .asc version of a menu file must exist for bbs.menu_exists() to return true.

mainmenu.ans exists - does bbs.menu_exists() test for .msg or .asc but not .ans? That would explain it, but does it not check for the same file types
that bbs.menu() displays?

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Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: nolageek to Digital Man on Tue Jan 14 2020 02:09 pm

Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: Digital Man to nolageek on Tue Jan 14 2020 09:55 am

Does the file text/menu/<shell>/mainmenu.asc exist? The .msg or .asc version of a menu file must exist for bbs.menu_exists() to return true.

mainmenu.ans exists - does bbs.menu_exists() test for .msg or .asc but not .ans? That would explain it, but why would it not check for the same file types that bbs.menu() displays?

At minimum, a .asc or .msg menu display file is required. bbs.menu() first looks for the *most* applicable file format, not all file formats.

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Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: Digital Man to nolageek on Tue Jan 14 2020 03:00 pm

At minimum, a .asc or .msg menu display file is required. bbs.menu() first looks for the *most* applicable file format, not all file formats.

But it will find .ans - I guess I expected bbs.menu() and bbs.menu_exists() to work with the same formats so they could work together.I could convert I gues (but then I'd have to always convert back and forth to edit them.) Are .msg and .asc faster or are they "more native" to synchronet? Just curious.

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Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: nolageek to Digital Man on Tue Jan 14 2020 23:12:57

Are .msg and .asc faster or are they "more native" to synchronet? Just curious.

AFAIK, .msg format can be used for all... use ^A codes for the colors... if a user is mono-only (asc), they will get mono only... if they are color capable, they will get color in the format their terminal can handle...

AIUI, sbbs handles the colors as needed by sending color codes for color capable terminals or not sending them for mono terminals... i'm pretty sure that user's setting are also taken into account so that a user may be using a color capable terminal but have their settings for ascii only... so they may see color on their initial connect but once logged in, everything will be in mono after that if they have set ascii only...

i'm slowly moving to all .msg files for all my external display "templates" specifically so i don't have to manage 3 or 4 copies of the same file in different formats...


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Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: nolageek to Digital Man on Tue Jan 14 2020 11:12 pm

Re: bbs.menu vs bbs.menu_exists
By: Digital Man to nolageek on Tue Jan 14 2020 03:00 pm

At minimum, a .asc or .msg menu display file is required. bbs.menu() first looks for the *most* applicable file format, not all file formats.

But it will find .ans - I guess I expected bbs.menu() and bbs.menu_exists() to work with the same formats so they could work together.

They do. That's why menu_exists() is failing, because you're doing it wrong. You *have* to have one of the lowest-common-denominator menu files (*.msg or *.asc).

I could convert I
gues (but then I'd have to always convert back and forth to edit them.)

That or use an editor that supports Ctrl-A format files (e.g. PabloDraw).

Are
.msg and .asc faster or are they "more native" to synchronet? Just curious.

Not faster, but better.

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