Adobe is ENDING any further support/development of its Flash Player by
the end of 2020...and most web browsers have stopped support for pages
with Flash. The main reason is that Flash has become a severe security
risk, with many hackers using it to spread malware of all kinds.

Since echicken does one of the website interfaces with Synchronet
(webv4), I was curious if this will have an effect on the page, if
folks click on "Connect Via Telnet". Also, will the port (I think 843)
need to be disabled in ones router??

Daryl

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Re: End Of Flash Support
By: Daryl Stout to All on Sun Nov 01 2020 12:20 pm

Adobe is ENDING any further support/development of its Flash Player by
the end of 2020...and most web browsers have stopped support for pages
with Flash. The main reason is that Flash has become a severe security
risk, with many hackers using it to spread malware of all kinds.

Since echicken does one of the website interfaces with Synchronet
(webv4), I was curious if this will have an effect on the page, if
folks click on "Connect Via Telnet". Also, will the port (I think 843)
need to be disabled in ones router??

I think you're referring to Rick Parrish's fTelnet web app? It hasn't used Flash in quite a long time now (the 'f' in its name is just a legacy). It uses HTML5 and WebSockets now.

The Synchronet FlashPolicy service (flashpolicyserver.js) isn't used/needed any longer.
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Rob,

I think you're referring to Rick Parrish's fTelnet web app? It hasn't
used Flash in quite a long time now (the 'f' in its name is just a legacy). It uses HTML5 and WebSockets now.

Correct.

The Synchronet FlashPolicy service (flashpolicyserver.js) isn't used/needed any longer. --

So, can the port related to it (443) be disabled??

Daryl

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Re: End Of Flash Support
By: Daryl Stout to All on Sun Nov 01 2020 12:20:00

Adobe is ENDING any further support/development of its Flash Player by

Since echicken does one of the website interfaces with Synchronet
(webv4), I was curious if this will have an effect on the page, if

This should have no impact on webv4. fTelnet uses modern web technologies to achieve the connection. (This is the role of the WebSocket service, which you may have one or two entries for (secure and insecure) in services.ini.)

folks click on "Connect Via Telnet". Also, will the port (I think 843) need to be disabled in ones router??

There's a "Flash Socket Policy" service and I think it does listen on port 843. You might as well disable the service and remove any port forwarding rules in your router - unless for some reason you want to continue supporting Flash clients.

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Re: Re: End Of Flash Support
By: Daryl Stout to Digital Man on Mon Nov 02 2020 01:17:00

So, can the port related to it (443) be disabled??

You can disable your rule(s) for port 843.

Port 443 on the other hand is for HTTPS, and you probably want to keep that.

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Re: End Of Flash Support
By: echicken to Daryl Stout on Mon Nov 02 2020 11:03 am

Adobe is ENDING any further support/development of its Flash Player
by

Since echicken does one of the website interfaces with Synchronet
(webv4), I was curious if this will have an effect on the page, if

This should have no impact on webv4. fTelnet uses modern web technologies to achieve the connection. (This is the role of the WebSocket service, which you may have one or two entries for (secure and insecure) in services.ini.)

And I believe fTelnet has been supporting modern (HTMl5?) methods of connections for years now. I've seen people complaining about Flash for a long time for it being insecure, etc., and I've been hearing about Flash disappearing for a long time now.

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There's a "Flash Socket Policy" service and I think it does listen on
port 843. You might as well disable the service and remove any port forwarding rules in your router - unless for some reason you want to continue supporting Flash clients.

I've already done that...it's just too much of a risk.

Daryl

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So, can the port related to it (443) be disabled??

You can disable your rule(s) for port 843.

Port 443 on the other hand is for HTTPS, and you probably want to keep that.

That's what I figured, but I wanted to be sure.

Daryl

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Re: Re: End Of Flash Support
By: Daryl Stout to echicken on Tue Nov 03 2020 06:26:00

port forwarding rules in your router - unless for some reason you
want to continue supporting Flash clients.

I've already done that...it's just too much of a risk.

A risk to users who continue to use Flash in their browsers, but not so much for you on the server side. This is more a matter of tidying up.

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On 11-03-20 06:26, Daryl Stout wrote to echicken <=-

There's a "Flash Socket Policy" service and I think it does listen on
port 843. You might as well disable the service and remove any port forwarding rules in your router - unless for some reason you want to continue supporting Flash clients.

I've already done that...it's just too much of a risk.

Flash is officially dead. Just uninstalled it here.


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On 11-04-20 00:26, echicken wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

A risk to users who continue to use Flash in their browsers, but not so much for you on the server side. This is more a matter of tidying up.

Adobe is currently warning users with Flash installed that support ends on Dec 31, and recommending that it be uninstalled. Which I've done.


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port forwarding rules in your router - unless for some reason you
want to continue supporting Flash clients.

I've already done that...it's just too much of a risk.

A risk to users who continue to use Flash in their browsers, but not so much for you on the server side. This is more a matter of tidying up.

Years ago, I had a file on the BBS of some safe TSR's, that made it look
like your system was infected. It displayed ANSI graphics such as:

1) A computer character "flashing" you.
2) A clown sticking his tongue out.
3) The words GET BACK TO WORK!!

In the TSR, you set it to activate after a certain number of keystrokes. While it would give the "victim" a scare, it was totally harmless. Unfortunately, I lost that file in a crash long ago.

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Tony Langdon wrote to echicken <=-

Adobe is currently warning users with Flash installed that support ends
on Dec 31, and recommending that it be uninstalled. Which I've done.

I worked at Macromedia from 1995-1998, and the company bought a
little company out of San Diego for a package called FutureSplash. I
think they paid something like a million and change for it.

Hired the engineers, changed the name to Flash, and had a pretty good
run with it.



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Re: Re: End Of Flash Support
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tony Langdon on Wed Nov 04 2020 09:33 am

Tony Langdon wrote to echicken <=-

Adobe is currently warning users with Flash installed that support
ends on Dec 31, and recommending that it be uninstalled. Which I've
done.

I worked at Macromedia from 1995-1998, and the company bought a
little company out of San Diego for a package called FutureSplash. I
think they paid something like a million and change for it.

Hired the engineers, changed the name to Flash, and had a pretty good
run with it.

if only they could have made it secure.
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On 11-04-20 09:33, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

I worked at Macromedia from 1995-1998, and the company bought a
little company out of San Diego for a package called FutureSplash. I
think they paid something like a million and change for it.

Hired the engineers, changed the name to Flash, and had a pretty good
run with it.

It certainly lasted a while, though never did sort out the security issues.


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