Are you saying any eyewitness accounts of aliens should be assumed to
be false?

Nightfox

In the Bible they're called angels and demons. They don't need
spacecraft to travel. They have interdimensional access.

Demons like to fool people. The accounts may be real, though inaccurate
about the source.


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Re: Angels and demons
By: Jcurtis to NIGHTFOX on Wed May 21 2025 01:56 pm

Are you saying any eyewitness accounts of aliens should be assumed to
be false?

In the Bible they're called angels and demons. They don't need spacecraft to travel. They have interdimensional access.

Demons like to fool people. The accounts may be real, though inaccurate about the source.

I don't think we should assume angels & demons from the bible and extraterrestrials are the same thing..

Nightfox

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I don't think we should assume angels & demons from the bible and extraterrestrials are the same thing..

Nightfox

In the Bible, God tells us what we need to know. No mention of aliens in spacecraft.

Demons are real though.

Mark 5:1-20.


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In the Bible, God tells us what we need to know. No mention of aliens in spacecraft.

Demons are real though.

There's a lot that the bible doesn't mention. The bible doesn't mention automobiles - does that mean they aren't real?

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There's a lot that the bible doesn't mention. The bible doesn't
mention automobiles

How do you know, have you read it all? Few do.

does that mean they aren't real?

Mankind survived thousands of years without cars. Jesus didn't need one
to change the world.


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Re: Angels and demons
By: Jcurtis to NIGHTFOX on Wed May 21 2025 10:43 pm

There's a lot that the bible doesn't mention. The bible doesn't
mention automobiles

How do you know, have you read it all? Few do.

I haven't, but I think it's safe to say the bible didn't specifically mention automobiles, computers, the internet, and other things we have from today..

does that mean they aren't real?

Mankind survived thousands of years without cars. Jesus didn't need one to change the world.

True, and that's aside the point.

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Mankind survived thousands of years without cars. Jesus didn't need one t change the world.

True, and that's aside the point.

There are no aliens. But there are demons who like to fool people.


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I think it's safe to say the bible didn't specifically mention
automobiles, computers, the internet, and other things we have from
today..

The Bible is prophetic. That means God can see the future. What we have
today is powerless against His judgment. Forseen and foretold.


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Jcurtis wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

Mankind survived thousands of years without cars. Jesus didn't need one

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change the world.

True, and that's aside the point.

There are no aliens. But there are demons who like to fool people.

Wow, the Koolaid is strong in this one.



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I think it's safe to say the bible didn't specifically mention
automobiles, computers, the internet, and other things we have from
today..

The Bible is prophetic. That means God can see the future. What we have today is powerless against His judgment. Forseen and foretold.

How do you reconcile us having free with with God being able to see into the future?

Ive read and heard many interpretations but I'm wondering about yours. If we truly can change our ways, then the future is not determined until we make our choice, and therefore God cannot know. If God knows our choice, then we have no
choice, and from where come responsibility?
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Re: Re: Angels and demons
By: Boraxman to Jcurtis on Fri May 23 2025 07:57 am

Ive read and heard many interpretations but I'm wondering about yours. If we truly can change our ways, then the future is not determined until we make our choice, and therefore God cannot know. If God knows our choice, then we have no
choice, and from where come responsibility? e

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice" - Rush, "Freewill"

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Re: Angels and demons
By: Jcurtis to NIGHTFOX on Wed May 21 2025 01:56 pm

Are you saying any eyewitness accounts of aliens should be assumed to
be false?

In the Bible they're called angels and demons. They don't need spacecraft to travel. They have interdimensional access.

Demons like to fool people. The accounts may be real, though inaccurate about the source.

I don't think we should assume angels & demons from the bible and extraterrestrials are the same thing..

What other explanation? Creatures that 'evolved differently?'
This assumes you have the worldview that man evolved and
wasn't created...



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Gamgee wrote to Jcurtis <=-

Jcurtis wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

Mankind survived thousands of years without cars. Jesus didn't need one

t

change the world.

True, and that's aside the point.

There are no aliens. But there are demons who like to fool people.

Wow, the Koolaid is strong in this one.

I may not see eye to eye with Jcurtis on everything, but I
agree with this point too. There is no proof that they
come from another planet, but they do come from 'not on
this earth.'



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Boraxman wrote to Jcurtis <=-

The Bible is prophetic. That means God can see the future. What we have today is powerless against His judgment. Forseen and foretold.

How do you reconcile us having free with with God being able to see
into the future?

Ive read and heard many interpretations but I'm wondering about yours.
If we truly can change our ways, then the future is not determined
until we make our choice, and therefore God cannot know. If God knows
our choice, then we have no
choice, and from where come responsibility?

You sound like my son. :-) He calls it the illusion of choice.

Personally, I see it as God is outside of time, space and
matter. Therefore He is the same yesterday, today and
tomorrow.

You and I don't know what will happen tomorrow, nor what
decisions we will make, but He does. Does this mean we
don't have a choice? Not at all! From our perspective,
we haven't made the choice yet. But from His perspective,
it's already happened.

So if it's 'already happened' how can it change? It can't.
So how can it be a choice? Because TO US it hasn't been
made yet.

Foreknowledge is NOT the say as predestination. If God
DECIDED for us, we would have no choice. But He doesn't
decide for us, but He does KNOW what we are going to
choose.


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Re: Re: Angels and demons
By: jimmylogan to Nightfox on Fri May 23 2025 11:33 am

I don't think we should assume angels & demons from the bible and
extraterrestrials are the same thing..

What other explanation? Creatures that 'evolved differently?' This assumes you have the worldview that man evolved and wasn't created...

I just don't know why we'd assume that extraterrestrials are angels & demons. I mean, we humans aren't angels & demons. Why would beings from another planet be?

And if you believe in evolution, naturally they'd have evolved differently on another planet. Or if you believe in creation, they'd be another one of God's creations.

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The Bible is prophetic. That means God can see the future.

How do you reconcile us having free with with God being able to see into the future?

Prophecy guides us to life. We are not puppets. Maybe it bothers
atheists but I don't see a problem.


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