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Hello World!
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Testing this out!
Hello World!
Just saying hi!
Just saying hi!
Just saying hi!
Hello, I am brand new to this BBS and I'm sure you've seen people like me before but here goes nothing. I am in awe at this place! I cannot believe that this used to be what the internet was, and still is (Kind of)! It's fascinating to know that the Internet has come so far since the creation of the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for "Calling"!
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Re: Hello
By: Aaronfire7 to All on Sat May 07 2022 01:50 pm
Hello, I am brand new to this BBS and I'm sure you've seen people like before but here goes nothing. I am in awe at this place! I cannot belie that this used to be what the internet was, and still is (Kind of)! It' fascinating to know that the Internet has come so far since the creatio of the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for "Calling"!
þ Synchronet þ The Cave BBS - Since 1992 - cavebbs.homeip.net
Welcome!
Keep in mind this is a networked message board, where your message can be re by people on many different BBSes. So when you say "this BBS", I assume you mean The Cave BBS?
BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew about BBSes. There were so many BBSes in my area though, and it has been sad to see them all pretty muc disappear except for a select few.
Nightfox
the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for "Calling"!
the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for "Calling"!
Hi and welcome :-)
I don't want to be the guy, but maybe 91-92 was the golden age, but BBS was there before that. 78 could be the start, I guess. A friend started his arou 83.
so far since the creatio of the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for
so far since the creatio of the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for
Keep in mind this is a networked message board, where your message can
be re by people on many different BBSes. So when you say "this BBS",
I assume you mean The Cave BBS?
Probably should also point it this wasn't how The Internet was. BBS's were separate to the Internet. It was a way for people to connect computers and message and chat and share files without the Internet.
Denn wrote to Boraxman <=-
BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
about BBSes.
BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of
households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
about BBSes.
Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to Nightfox on Sun May 08 2022 10:59 am
so far since the creatio of the BBS in 1991-1992. Thanks for
Well BBS'ing really began in the 70's
I ran my 1st BBS in the mid 80's.
Keep in mind this is a networked message board, where your message can
be re by people on many different BBSes. So when you say "this BBS",
I assume you mean The Cave BBS?
BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
about BBSes. There were so many BBSes in my area though, and it has
been sad to see them all pretty muc disappear except for a select few.
Yes, sad indeed, but now we're back and better.
Probably should also point it this wasn't how The Internet was. BBS's were separate to the Internet. It was a way for people to connect computers and message and chat and share files without the Internet.
True But BBS's were the first experience for many to connect to antother computer.
Denn wrote to Boraxman <=-
BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
about BBSes.
It felt like you were part of a secret society that few people you
encountered even knew about. You'd meet someone and mention something
about connect tones or downloading, and if you saw a glint in their
eyes knew that they knew.
That's the most shocking thing to me, as a young'un. Reading BBS literature, it seems that, back in the 80s, every teenager had one running in their basement.
Yet when I find people in that age range -- even the old techies! -- and ask about BBSes, I get a confused look and a "No, we really only just used computers for college."
Denn wrote to Boraxman <=-
BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
about BBSes.
It felt like you were part of a secret society that few people you
encountered even knew about. You'd meet someone and mention something
about connect tones or downloading, and if you saw a glint in their
eyes knew that they knew.
... It is simply a matter of work
there's not much bbs literature. and no, not every teenager had a bbs in th
Re: Re: Hello
By: MRO to Margaerynne on Tue May 17 2022 05:06 pm
there's not much bbs literature. and no, not every teenager had a bbs in th
I'm definitely no teenager, but my BBS is in the basement because that's where all my servers are.
Yet when I find people in that age range -- even the old techies! -- and ask about BBSes, I get a confused look and a "No, we really only just used computers for college."
For me, it was being part of some underground. You had access to Module Tracker files, the Demoscene, cool ansi, a cyberpunk aesthetic and PeoPlE WhO WroTe LiKE tHiS uSInG CrAzy cAPs. That and the wierd obscure stuff you like find, like infamous manifesto's... *cough*.
Just saying hi!
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Fredericksburg, VA USA
Re: Re: Hello
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Mon May 16 2022 06:47 am
BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of
households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
about BBSes.
That's the most shocking thing to me, as a young'un. Reading BBS literature, seems that, back in the 80s, every teenager had one running in their baseme
Yet when I find people in that age range -- even the old techies! -- and ask about BBSes, I get a confused look and a "No, we really only just used computers for college."
Part of that might be regional, seeing as how I'm from the middle part of th country, but I'm still stunned. Even people who can rattle off their old PC specs from memory don't seem to remember BBSes.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 18 2022 08:38 am
For me, it was being part of some underground. You had access to Module Tracker files, the Demoscene, cool ansi, a cyberpunk aesthetic and PeoPl WhO WroTe LiKE tHiS uSInG CrAzy cAPs. That and the wierd obscure stuff y like find, like infamous manifesto's... *cough*.
And, the conspiracy theories! We all stayed up late BBSing and listening to Bell -- and writing about remote viewing, the illuminati, the globalist bank cartel, the people who kept UFOs under wraps, and the aliens that walk among us.
hope you dont have a lot of moisture in your basement.
Yet when I find people in that age range -- even the old techies! -- and ask about BBSes, I get a confused look and a "No, we really only just used computers for college."
Part of that might be regional, seeing as how I'm from the middle part of th country, but I'm still stunned. Even people who can rattle off their old PC specs from memory don't seem to remember BBSes.
Re: Re: Hello
By: MRO to Belly on Tue May 17 2022 07:31 pm
hope you dont have a lot of moisture in your basement.
No worries about static discharge.
And things have been running down there for 25 years now.
This is my third BBS, but my first basement. My first BBS ran on a TRS-80 Model III with a 300bps modem.
BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of households had a computer at the time, so still not everyone knew
about BBSes. There were so many BBSes in my area though, and it has
been sad to see them all pretty muc disappear except for a select few.
Boraxman wrote to Margaerynne <=-
Only one of my friends used BBSs. He was the one that introduced me to them when I was loaned a 386 with a modem. I think another *may* have used them, but it was a niche thing, and this was in the 90's.
I don't mean because of the static i mean because of the moisture.
That's the most shocking thing to me, as a young'un. Reading BBS literature, i
seems that, back in the 80s, every teenager had one running in their basement
Yet when I find people in that age range -- even the old techies! -- and ask about BBSes, I get a confused look and a "No, we really only just used computers for college."
Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on Wed May 18 2022 07:32 pm
Where did you live in the 90s?
Where I live now, the BBS phase of online communications sort of got skipped.
Melbourne, Australia. I'm still here.
Only one of my friends used BBSs. He was the one that introduced me to them when I was loaned a 386 with a modem. I think another *may* have used them, but it was a niche thing, and this was in the 90's.
I grew up in central MA where BBSs were fairly plentiful. I learned about them from friends at the local (tabletop) gaming shop.
Re: Re: Hello
By: MRO to Belly on Wed May 18 2022 11:52 am
I don't mean because of the static i mean because of the moisture.
There's no problem with static because of the... Nevermind. This conversation is pointless.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on Thu May 19 2022 07:49 am
Melbourne, Australia. I'm still here.
Supporting my last comment, there's something still indescribably cool about having this conversation right now.
Now I'm realizing I know basically nothing about the development of phone service / early networks in Australia, which might be fun to look into.
If you don't mind me asking, do you have any particularly fond memories from that time?
Back then, it seemed that home computers in general were a bit of a niche thing, at least until the mid 90s. But among computer users, I thought BBS usage was a relatively common thing. In the 90s, I knew several people who used BBSes, or at lest knew what they were. Among other things, BBSes were fairly common way to find new software for your computer. The shareware concept was fairly common back then.
I was actually surprised when I was takling to a computer-savvy friend of mi in 1994 and I told him I had started running a BBS, and he didn't know what BBS was.
Nightfox
Re: Re: Hello
By: MRO to Belly on Wed May 18 2022 10:54 pm
Not everyone lives in the same climate, you know?
MOISTURE. NOT STATIC.
Re: Re: Hello
By: MRO to Belly on Wed May 18 2022 10:54 pm
MOISTURE. NOT STATIC.
still pointless.
Where I live now, the BBS phase of online communications sort of got skipped.
Granted, the 80s and 90s weren't exactly a time of harmony and understanding either, so that might be a pipe dream.
i literally sent you a screenshot about the affects of moisture on computer components.
Dumas Walker wrote to MARGAERYNNE <=-
In the area I lived in at the time (1987-1997), most of the people
running full-time BBSes during most of that time would be in their late 70s+ now.
Where I live now, the BBS phase of online communications sort of got skipped. By the time home computers became popular, the internet was available. Many people I know skipped from no online communications, other than at work, to smart phones, skipping the online PC experience
all together.
Re: Re: Hello
By: MRO to Belly on Thu May 19 2022 02:14 pm
i literally sent you a screenshot about the affects of moisture on computer components.
Please remind me of your point, again? I did own an electronics repair shop for almost 20 years.
Dumas Walker wrote to MARGAERYNNE <=-
In the area I lived in at the time (1987-1997), most of the people running full-time BBSes during most of that time would be in their late 70s+ now.
Sysop obituaries are becoming more common in Fidonet. It's a shame,
one would hope that institutional memory gets captured somewhere.
I don't want to be the guy, but maybe 91-92 was the golden age, but
BBS was there before that. 78 could be the start, I guess. A friend
started his around 83.
By 91, every area had more than one local BBS, and 2400 baud modems
could be bought for cheap at the Electronics Boutique in the mall.
ISP's didn't take over in my area until 96-97. Getting Windows 95
was the main reason many of our customers chose to upgrade. they
have been happy with their 386's and 486's with 2400 baud modems,
and were forced to move to a Pentium and a 14.4k modem
i don't understand that you don't understand my point. i've repeated myself
if you don't remember your own posts you can use command keys to go back in
now pay attention:
I hadn't thought of that, the early 2000s feel like they were a high
point for pc-focused communications. Everyone had a blog, and
LiveJournal was king back then.
That was just about the time that Danger came out with the Sidekick,
and you saw the first moblogs. It feels like it's been all mobile
since then.
No, you pay attention. I said that I've run servers in that basement for 25 years now. I also store other electronics there, including part of my collection of vintage computers, all of which seem to work just fine when I turn them on.
Feel free to refrain from responding to my posts in the future, because you obviously don't read them first.
The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, back them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.
I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.
Dumas Walker wrote to MARGAERYNNE <=-
In the area I lived in at the time (1987-1997), most of the people running full-time BBSes during most of that time would be in their late 70s+ now.
Sysop obituaries are becoming more common in Fidonet. It's a shame,
one would hope that institutional memory gets captured somewhere.
It's a shame that the networks are so ephemeral; I hope archive.org
can find some BBS echomail archives of the 80s and 90s.
Where I live now, the BBS phase of online communications sort of got skipped. By the time home computers became popular, the internet was available. Many people I know skipped from no online communications, other than at work, to smart phones, skipping the online PC experience all together.
I hadn't thought of that, the early 2000s feel like they were a high
point for pc-focused communications. Everyone had a blog, and
LiveJournal was king back then.
That was just about the time that Danger came out with the Sidekick,
and you saw the first moblogs. It feels like it's been all mobile
since then.
I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.
them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to
you're still the same idiot from years ago. fuck off.
Re: Re: Hello
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu May 19 2022 07:24 am
I hadn't thought of that, the early 2000s feel like they were a high
point for pc-focused communications. Everyone had a blog, and
LiveJournal was king back then.
That was just about the time that Danger came out with the Sidekick,
and you saw the first moblogs. It feels like it's been all mobile
since then.
The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, bac them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.
I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am
The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, back them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversatio That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that. Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was us that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.
I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.
i used to just msg random people in my area and talk to them. times were mor rom arguing on news posts.
Even 14.4 was pretty painful once the web started. All I can remember
is Real Player ("Buffering...") and Windows updates taking hours and
No, you pay attention. I said that I've run servers in that basement for 25 years now. I also store other electronics there, including part of my collection of vintage computers, all of which seem to work just fine when I turn them on.
MRO wrote to Boraxman <=-
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Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am
The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, back them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.
I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.
i used to just msg random people in my area and talk to them. times
were more innocent. now the freaks, male and female took over. they're just looking to cheat on their husbands or wives. now people are less friendly and stick in their circles aside from arguing on news posts.
Belly wrote to Boraxman <=-
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Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN
on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am
them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to
Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.
Moondog wrote to Boraxman <=-
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@REPLY: <62883A6B.56206.dove-gen@bbs.mozysswamp.org>
Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN
on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am
Re: Re: Hello
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu May 19 2022 07:24 am
I hadn't thought of that, the early 2000s feel like they were a high
point for pc-focused communications. Everyone had a blog, and
LiveJournal was king back then.
That was just about the time that Danger came out with the Sidekick,
and you saw the first moblogs. It feels like it's been all mobile
since then.
The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, bac them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.
I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.
I have a cousin that worked at a radio station in the evenings in
Olean, NY. Their radio station had a website, and link to a chat room
on some service I can't remember. The music was mostly automated,
however he would go on the chat and ask folk to select and vote on
songs to play. On occasion his mother would appear on chat, and she wouldn't say much around strangers. Usua lly it was later in his shift
it would get quiet, and they would chat.
When my uncle retired, he would wake up at 4:30 in the morning like he
had for most his working life. He would have breakfast, then get on
Yahoo games and play Euchre against players in Australia and New
Zealand. The early 2000's was a great time to be on the internet. I originally got into BBS' in 1991 after i bought a 2400 baud internal
modem for $65 at Electronics Boutique (they later became part of EB Games.) I used Procomm Plus, and in the early to mid 90's there were several BBS's in my area. They all connected to Fido-net for mail, and usually around midnight the board would be inaccessible due to it
sending and receiving mail with whatever acted as their central mail server. My buddy gave me sysop access, but I never used it. I did
have the ability to monitor mail and private message threads. We h ad quite a few gamers on the board, and some were either the kids or
younger brothers and sisters of other members. We had to keep an eye
out for sexual predators and there was a teenage girl that liked to
flirt and talk dirty with other users. At first I chalked it off to
some old dude pretending he's a 14 year old, but later I heard she was real and was stalking a friend's younger brother that was 15 or 16. My friend's family lived next door to the sysop, and they had a coax
ethernet cable between both houses to play games. By 1996, the BBS's began to sign off, and the sysops were now creating their own web
sites. Only a few registered a domain. Most were hosted by their ISP
of choice or AOL, or Geocities.
---
Which begs the question, how do you keep the humidity/moisture levels in check? Basements around my part of the country usually require some planning to accomplish that.
Yes, I do have a Discord account. I don't mind it, though the default clien is heavy, and the pidgin plugin lacking a little. The problem is, other peo I knew, friends, family were also on MSN back in the day. They aren't on Discord.
Discord has been got to arrange some Quake and Quake 2 multiplayer games.
now people are less friendly and stick in
their circles aside from arguing on news posts.
It used to be exciting to be talking to people from all over the world. My guess is it has become such a casual thing, people are not as polite as they used to be.
i used to just msg random people in my area and talk to them. times were mor rom arguing on news posts.
It used to be exciting to be talking to people from all over the world. My guess is it has become such a casual thing, people are not as polite as they used to be. Poorly moderated chat areas had the worst people.
Re: Re: Hello
By: MRO to Boraxman on Sat May 21 2022 01:31 pm
now people are less friendly and stick in
their circles aside from arguing on news posts.
It's honestly pretty rough, isn't it?
Guess some things don't change, though. People like yelling at each other over the internet too much?
Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am
them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. T doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks
Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.
o
(O)
BeLLy
There's no problem with static because of the... Nevermind. This conversation is pointless.
Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a server
Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 09:52 pm
Yes, I do have a Discord account. I don't mind it, though the default cl is heavy, and the pidgin plugin lacking a little. The problem is, other I knew, friends, family were also on MSN back in the day. They aren't on Discord.
A couple of years back, I started a Discord server and invited all of the ga that I used to BBS with back during the last century, and then expanded it t the old members of the Facebook group a decade ago, before I decided to wise and run far away from FB. It's pretty active, and much easier to operate tha a BBS, on a mobile device, for sure.
Discord has been got to arrange some Quake and Quake 2 multiplayer games.
It's definitely great for that... Voice chat, screen sharing, etc. I need to play Q/Q2/Q3 again. It's been ages!
o
(O)
BeLLy
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a server of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.
Moondog wrote to Boraxman <=-
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@REPLY: <62883A6B.56206.dove-gen@bbs.mozysswamp.org>
Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN
on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am
Re: Re: Hello
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu May 19 2022 07:24 am
I hadn't thought of that, the early 2000s feel like they were a high
point for pc-focused communications. Everyone had a blog, and
LiveJournal was king back then.
That was just about the time that Danger came out with the Sidekick,
and you saw the first moblogs. It feels like it's been all mobile
since then.
The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. T doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was us that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.
I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.
I have a cousin that worked at a radio station in the evenings in Olean, NY. Their radio station had a website, and link to a chat room on some service I can't remember. The music was mostly automated, however he would go on the chat and ask folk to select and vote on songs to play. On occasion his mother would appear on chat, and she wouldn't say much around strangers. Usua lly it was later in his shift it would get quiet, and they would chat.
When my uncle retired, he would wake up at 4:30 in the morning like he had for most his working life. He would have breakfast, then get on Yahoo games and play Euchre against players in Australia and New Zealand. The early 2000's was a great time to be on the internet. I originally got into BBS' in 1991 after i bought a 2400 baud internal modem for $65 at Electronics Boutique (they later became part of EB Games.) I used Procomm Plus, and in the early to mid 90's there were several BBS's in my area. They all connected to Fido-net for mail, and usually around midnight the board would be inaccessible due to it sending and receiving mail with whatever acted as their central mail server. My buddy gave me sysop access, but I never used it. I did have the ability to monitor mail and private message threads. We h ad quite a few gamers on the board, and some were either the kids or younger brothers and sisters of other members. We had to keep an eye out for sexual predators and there was a teenage girl that liked to flirt and talk dirty with other users. At first I chalked it off to some old dude pretending he's a 14 year old, but later I heard she was real and was stalking a friend's younger brother that was 15 or 16. My friend's family lived next door to the sysop, and they had a coax ethernet cable between both houses to play games. By 1996, the BBS's began to sign off, and the sysops were now creating their own web sites. Only a few registered a domain. Most were hosted by their ISP of choice or AOL, or Geocities.
---
I like how you had the coax between the two houses. I considered running a network cable from my house to a friends house, but he lived a block away, a I'd have to run nearly 100m of cable over the roofs of shops and over the street. We seriously considered it, but didn't have the length of cable necessary (it probably would have needed a repeater in between), and having cable cross the road (it was a busy road) would have been surely in violatio of local laws.
... Got my tie caught in the fax... Suddenly I was in L.A.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Belly to Boraxman on Sat May 21 2022 09:20 pm
Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 21 2022 11:03 am
them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it suc
Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.
o
(O)
BeLLy
I doubt boraxman aproves of Discord :-)
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a server of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.
Not to mention Discord rapes RAM brutally when compared to nearly any simila solution.
If I wanted to use a behemoth of a chat system I'd rather use Jitsi Meet. I not too fond of that one either.
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I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Arelor <=-
Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a server
I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.
Andre wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Video chat, voice chat, safe embedded images, proper authentication security, game streaming, and so on and so on.
IRC is an extremely basic chatroom, and it barely even functions as
that.
Boraxman wrote to Belly <=-
I maintain a QuakeWorld and Quake 2 servers, though they sit idle
almost all the time. You can get someone to jump on if there are
already two players on there.
Margaerynne wrote to Arelor <=-
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a server of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.
Yet another reason to self-host anything important, and make frequent backups.
server of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.
Not to mention Discord rapes RAM brutally when compared to nearly any simila solution.
If I wanted to use a behemoth of a chat system I'd rather use Jitsi Meet. I not too fond of that one either.
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Re: Re: Hello
By: Arelor to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 05:52 pm
Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosyste to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a serv
I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Arelor to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 05:52 pm
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosyst to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a ser of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.
The worst part is that you can be banned/removed for violating rules that weren't in place at the time.
Yet another reason to self-host anything important, and make frequent backup
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Arelor <=-
Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosyst to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a ser
I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.
The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)
Oh, that's easy. I run a dehumidifier down there, which keeps it at about
60% relative, about the same as the main house.. Which sounds high, until you consider that outdoors, here, the relative humidity is currently 93%.
I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.
The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)
Which begs the question, how do you keep the humidity/moisture levels in check? Basements around my part of the country usually require some planning to accomplish that.
It's honestly pretty rough, isn't it?
Guess some things don't change, though. People like yelling at each other over the internet too much?
Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the
ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is
actually not a server
I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.
IRC is an extremely basic chatroom, and it barely even functions as that.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Arelor to Belly on Sun May 22 2022 05:52 pm
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosyst to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a ser of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.
The worst part is that you can be banned/removed for violating rules that weren't in place at the time.
Yet another reason to self-host anything important, and make frequent backup
What do you mean when you say IRC barely even functions as that?
Re: Re: Hello
By: Dumas Walker to BELLY on Sun May 22 2022 10:43 am
Which begs the question, how do you keep the humidity/moisture levels in check? Basements around my part of the country usually require some planning to accomplish that.
A de-humidifier might work. I've even seen some air conditioners that just have a de-humidify mode.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Margaerynne to MRO on Sun May 22 2022 04:00 pm
It's honestly pretty rough, isn't it?
Guess some things don't change, though. People like yelling at each other over the internet too much?
And on BBS message networks too..
I haven't used Discord a whole lot, but one thing about Discord is that you can see all of the conversation history even if you log out and log back in again. With IRC, you won't be able to see any of the conversation you missed while you were not connected.
Re: Re: Hello
My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".
Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-
Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the ecosyst to the point that if you set your own "server" it is actually not a ser
I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.
The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)
I am sure there is a lot of that :-)
I use IRC most of the time to stay in touch with friends and talk
about tech stuff in certain tech channels. There are tasks for
which text only does not cut it, or does not work as well as a
platform with multimedia capabilities.
For example, I invited my friends from the US to my birthday
virtual party and we had a blast playing boardgames online. Voice
chat made it possible to discuss plays and explain how the games
worked in a more agile way than text chat. Text chat could have
done it, but it would have been a bit worse.
Roleplaying games are another example. You can run roleplaying
games over text only chat with some bot for rolling the dice. The
medium is a bit too slow so action sequences lose momentum. A
voice chat application in which you can integrate a dice bot
works better.
Mumble works very well for those scenarios.
The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)
This.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Boraxman <=-
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Boraxman wrote to Belly <=-
I maintain a QuakeWorld and Quake 2 servers, though they sit idle
almost all the time. You can get someone to jump on if there are
already two players on there.
I load up my Quake2 server client every once in a while to see if a
server I played RELIGIOUSLY from 1997-1999 is still up.
I think it's called Tastyspleen:city1. If anyone here jumps on it, let
me
know!
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Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to Arelor on Mon May 23 2022 07:33 pm
server of yours, and still requires you to have an account with them.
Not to mention Discord rapes RAM brutally when compared to nearly any simila solution.
If I wanted to use a behemoth of a chat system I'd rather use Jitsi Meet. I not too fond of that one either.
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i'm looking at task msgr now
discord is doing nothing and using 150mb of ram.
hex chat is doing nothing and connected to several servers and using
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Re: Re: Hello
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor
on Sun May 22 2022 07:45 pm
I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.
Video chat, voice chat, safe embedded images, proper authentication security, game streaming, and so on and so on.
IRC is an extremely basic chatroom, and it barely even functions as
that.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
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Re: Re: Hello
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor
on Sun May 22 2022 07:45 pm
Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the
ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is
actually not a server
I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.
I haven't used Discord a whole lot, but one thing about Discord is that you can see all of the conversation history even if you log out and log back in again. With IRC, you won't be able to see any of the
conversation you missed while you were not connected.
---MRO Said:
just dont trust jewish tech people, or people with ties to them.
that seems to be the road to evil.
I'm sure I'm going to regret this. Why should you not trust Jewish
tech people?
--- ANDRE wrote --- Re: Re: Hello By: the
doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 11:15 am
It's not much better the the dipshit comment he was responding to.
I haven't used Discord a whole lot, but one thing about Discord is
that you can see all of the conversation history even if you log out
and log back in again. With IRC, you won't be able to see any of the
conversation you missed while you were not connected.
i guess you havent used irc much either because i've been using znc for a loooong time
The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)
This.
My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".
I'm surprised Discord is that low. I'll check my usage, but I was sure it was higher, but that was when it was in use. It does take a while to load, though my system is "slow" by todays standards.
---MRO Said:
just dont trust jewish tech people, or people with ties to them.
that seems to be the road to evil.
I'm sure I'm going to regret this. Why should you not trust Jewish
tech people?
i guess you havent used irc much either because i've been using znc for a loooong time
I've been using IRC since 1995. I used to use IRC quite a bit but dropped off in the mid 2000s and haven't really used IRC a whole lot since then.
Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-
My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".
Californians are Americans.. ;)
--MRO said:
just dont trust jewish tech people, or people with ties to them.
that seems to be the road to evil.
I'm sure I'm going to regret this. Why should you not trust Jewish
tech people?
that's a stupid question.
just look at whats happened in the last decade.
Maybe this is my fault, as I think I must have missed some of the conversation.
As a former member of the International Jewish Conspiracy, and a computer technician, etc., for many many years... I'm just wondering how the news
is leaking out.
Californians are Americans.. ;)
The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)
This.
Discord was wonderful during 2020 for keeping in touch with core friends and family.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Mon May 23 2022 06:02 pm
The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)
This.
But what about that?
The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)
This.
But what about that?
That means that any text-only tech, even if upgraded to current security standards, is not going to catch on among most social media users.
Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-
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Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on
Tue May 24 2022 07:50 am
My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".
Californians are Americans.. ;)
--- MRO wrote --- Re: Re: Hello By: the doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 08:41
pm
no you apparently have been living under a rock.
Belly wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Discord might not be for everyone, but it works for me. The 170MB it's using right now is a drop in the pond, compared to the total memory footprint of everything running on my desktop right now.
Boraxman wrote to Andre <=-
You can use a simply Discord client, but then people will expect you to see the animated GIFs, images, video chat.
"All on one" solutions generally suffer from this problem. There is
merit to the "do one thing, and do it well" philosophy.
--- MRO wrote --- Re: Re: Hello By: the doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 08:41
pm
no you apparently have been living under a rock.
Fine. Don't answer.
I like to run a lean environment on the BBS, and loaded Mozilla
Seamonkey on it; Seamonkey is a continuation of Communicator, and
it's still a decent multi-tool - and it saves me from running a
separate email client and IRC client on the BBS box.
This.
But what about that?
That means that any text-only tech, even if upgraded to current security standards, is not going to catch on among most social media users.
You may have missed the joke. You replied with just "this", so I was asking a
ut "that". :P
Californians are Americans.. ;)
Unfortunately this is true, and they've been escaping lately.
Maybe this is my fault, as I think I must have missed some of the conversation
As a former member of the International Jewish Conspiracy, and a computer technician, etc., for many many years... I'm just wondering how the news
is leaking out.
Most recently, to Portugal, where the natives are getting tired of their Californicating up everything.
Maybe this is my fault, as I think I must have missed some of the conversation
As a former member of the International Jewish Conspiracy, and a computer technician, etc., for many many years... I'm just wondering how the news is leaking out.
I am assuming he means the guy who runs Facebook but I am not sure.
* SLMR 2.1a * Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again!
Re: Re: Hello
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Sun May 22 2022 07:45 pm
Have you ever tried Discord? My friends and family use it constantly.
I certainly think it is awful. They have a tight control of the
ecosystem to the point that if you set your own "server" it is
actually not a server
I'm wondering what IRC didn't do that we needed it to do.
I haven't used Discord a whole lot, but one thing about Discord is that you can see all of the conversation history even if you log out and log back in again. With IRC, you won't be able to
see any of the conversation you missed while you were not connected.
Nightfox
I'm sure it does. I will just say that I'm happy with what IRC does for
me, and really don't need any of those other things.
This conversation strikes me as a metaphor for what happened to BBS's,
about 25 years ago. A mostly text medium got replaced with a fancy new graphical thing, called the WWW. ;-)
Re: Re: Hello
By: Nightfox to Margaerynne on Mon May 23 2022 03:39 pm
Re: Re: Hello
By: Margaerynne to MRO on Sun May 22 2022 04:00 pm
It's honestly pretty rough, isn't it?
Guess some things don't change, though. People like yelling at each other over the internet too much?
And on BBS message networks too..
What sucks is i only have like 6 people to yell at on bbses, on fb i have like 6 million!
Re: Re: Hello
By: Boraxman to Margaerynne on Tue May 24 2022 07:50 am
My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".
Californians are Americans.. ;)
Nightfox
The kids today need pretty pictures and videos. ;-)
This.
Discord was wonderful during 2020 for keeping in touch with core friends and family.
My comment wasn't directed at Discord in particular, but the general trend away from easier to use and/or text based tech in favor of tech that can also be more invasive.
I have never tried Discord myself, so I cannot say with any confidence that it is not useful. Sounds like it certainly was for you.
* SLMR 2.1a * Monday is a hard way to spend 1/7 of your life.
--- DUMAS WALKER wrote --- > Maybe this is my fault, as I think I must have missed some of the conversation
I am assuming he means the guy who runs Facebook but I am not sure.
First of all, in active channels you don't usually check the backstory anyway (it also applies to Telegram groups) because they move so fast.
Secondly, if you want to get a hold of the backstory you may use an IRC bouncer or an IRC client running on a shell.
Paradoxically, your yells in Facebook might be less inpactful to each of those 6 million than to each of the 6 BBS users. It is a supply and demand thing. When you post something in a venue with 6 million posters, your post becomes backround noise nobody notices. With only 6 posters, your post is a big percentage of the global traffic of the platform.
I have the suspicion that California is to America what Andaluca is to Spain.
If Andaluca split off from the rest of Spain there is a whole lot of people who would not care the least XD
It pisses me off no end when I am at, say, a My Little Pony themed IRC channel and somebody shows up and tries to convince everybody to move over to their new Discord server (which is not their server, btw). It is like religious zealots moving from door to door and trying to get you to join
if you want i can make you a znc account.
irc bouncers are usually feature rich and do more than one thing.
I am disgusted by the modern WWW. The one served over http(s). It is all avertisements and trackers and cookie warnings all around. Then you want to visit some blog and it downloads 25 megabytes of javascript libraries to draw a fancy background.
I have the suspicion that California is to America what Andaluca is to Spain.
If Andaluca split off from the rest of Spain there is a whole lot of people who would not care the least XD
I have the suspicion that California is to America what Andaluc¡a is to Spain.
If Andaluc¡a split off from the rest of Spain there is a whole lot of people who would not care the least XD
I am disgusted by the modern WWW. The one served over http(s). It is all
I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Boraxman <=-
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Boraxman wrote to Andre <=-
You can use a simply Discord client, but then people will expect you to see the animated GIFs, images, video chat.
Sort of like those Fidonet to Signal gates. Meme posts in Signal end
up as a URL to an image, which doesn't carry well to a BBS terminal
session.
"All on one" solutions generally suffer from this problem. There is
merit to the "do one thing, and do it well" philosophy.
Agreed. The only effective "swiss army knife" that I've experienced
was Netscape Communicator, which, back in 2000, was an effective web
browser, mail, IRC and news client.
I like to run a lean environment on the BBS, and loaded Mozilla
Seamonkey on it; Seamonkey is a continuation of Communicator, and
it's still a decent multi-tool - and it saves me from running a
separate email client and IRC client on the BBS box.
Oh, there is one "all on one" which works, and that is Emacs. Technically its just a LISP Machine which defaults to a text editor, but its flexible enough to not constrain you at all.
BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
was a fun time. At the same time, it seemed like only a fraction of
It felt like you were part of a secret society that few people you encountered even knew about. You'd meet someone and mention something about connect tones or downloading, and if you saw a glint in their
eyes knew that they knew.
BBSes were fairly popular before the internet became popular. It
You copied a paragraph I wrote to someone else and pasted it verbatim in your reply to boraxman.. ?
Re: Re: Hello
By: the doctor to MRO on Tue May 24 2022 11:15 am
I'm sure I'm going to regret this. Why should you not trust Jewish
tech people?
It's not much better the the dipshit comment he was responding to.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.
eh.. I'd rather still be able to have my login & other information encrypted when using my bank accounts on their web site.
I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is
creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.
eh.. I'd rather still be able to have my login & other information
encrypted when using my bank accounts on their web site.
100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...
100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I'm tempted to start an HTTP-only movement; all information is creative-commons licensed, so there's no reason for encryption.
eh.. I'd rather still be able to have my login & other information encrypted when using my bank accounts on their web site.
100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...
100%, but my Firefly fan appreciation site doesn't need encryption...
Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so I'm not sure I see the problem.
Nightfox
So yeah the near future will come with TLS enforced. Which kind of sucks because it will give so much power to certificate authorities to decide which websites are acceptable and which websites won't be accessible without the user having to wade through dire brower warnings.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sat May 28 2022 09:13 pm
So yeah the near future will come with TLS enforced. Which kind of sucks because it will give so much power to certificate authorities to decide which websites are acceptable and which websites won't be accessible with the user having to wade through dire brower warnings.
you could always have a self signed cert, a free cert or use cloudflare like me.
Self-signed certs are fine for sites your three buddies and you use. For widespread use they don't really cut it.
Free certs still require the certificate authority to be on board. Nowadays I don't put it bellow the woke brigade to pest certificate authorities to revoke the certificates of websites they want to cancel. Free certificate authorities are not free from this. There is a number of reasons why pestering certificate authorities is less effective than trying to cajole ISPs but still I think it is dangerous to require people to get the aproval of a CA in order to have a website.
Cloudflare, see above. Besides, I don't like the fact CLoudflare gets to see, analyze and correlate so much Internet traffic. They are a Google-grade threat for privacy.
Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so I
not sure I see the problem.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Arelor to MRO on Sun May 29 2022 09:53 am
well the way i see it is our privacey is gone. we gave it up many years ago willingly. and once it's gone you will not get it back.
it's really evident with these phones we are all addicted to. this thing is spying on me all day and night and listening to me. it's showing me stuff
in search results and ads when i am having private conversations with people face to face.
Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.
it's really evident with these phones we are all addicted to. this thing is spying on me all day and night and listening to me. it's showing me stuff in search results and ads when i am having private conversations with people face to face.
Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.
Search engines penalize websites nowdays that aren't using SSL, so plenty of tes "need to".
There is definitely an addiction to cell phones. The hard part is quitting too. I tried and failed. Lets face it, cell phones are just handy. I tried to switch to the PinePhone but that was just an awful experience. Nothing works, and at this poiunt, I doubt it ever will. I then moved to a flip phone and realized how much I miss even some of the basic cell phone features -- like a map.
There is definitely an addiction to cell phones. The hard part is quitting too. I tried and failed. Lets face it, cell phones are just handy. I tried to switch to the PinePhone but that was just an awful experience. Nothing works, and at this poiunt, I doubt it ever will. I then moved to a flip phone and realized how much I miss even some of the basic cell phone features -- like a map.
The Dawn of Demise BBS (tdod.org)
A flip phone IS a basic cell phone. :P Or rather, a map isn't a basic cell phone feature. I think you mean basic smartphone features.
I'm fed up with crappy phones, so I'm making my own "communicator" device wh can take any sort of cellular, WiFi, Lora, packet, etc. as comms. Here's a link (sorry it's on the web, my BBS isn't ready to directly link images yet)
I present, the Hackberry: https://imgur.com/a/rqIhdx2
I'm fed up with crappy phones, so I'm making my own "communicator" device wh
Now that looks impressive. I'm also fed up with these cellphones. If payphones were still around I would rather use one for the rare time that I have to make a call while I'm out. Seems as though the cell companies are purposely killing off the GSM networks so that they can force eveyone to be constantly tracked.
This looks like an interesting alternative.
Dumas Walker wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-I
Web sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so
not sure I see the problem.
Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.
Nightfox wrote to Minex <=-
A flip phone IS a basic cell phone. :P Or rather, a map isn't a basic cell phone feature. I think you mean basic smartphone features.
Multiplemiggs wrote to vxzero <=-
Now that looks impressive. I'm also fed up with these cellphones. If payphones were still around I would rather use one for the rare time
that I have to make a call while I'm out. Seems as though the cell companies are purposely killing off the GSM networks so that they can force eveyone to be constantly tracked.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Nightfox to Minex on Tue May 31 2022 05:31 pm
A flip phone IS a basic cell phone. :P Or rather, a map isn't a basic c phone feature. I think you mean basic smartphone features.
basic cellphones are now smart phones.
a flip phone is an antiquated cell phone
Re: Re: Hello
By: Multiplemiggs to vxzero on Tue May 31 2022 09:57 pm
Now that looks impressive. I'm also fed up with these cellphones. If payphones were still around I would rather use one for the rare time that have to make a call while I'm out. Seems as though the cell companies ar purposely killing off the GSM networks so that they can force eveyone to constantly tracked.
This looks like an interesting alternative.
i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.
There are flip phone apps. they're not as polished as smart phone apps. Browsing on a flip phone sucks. I tried to see as far as I can go before moving to a smart phone. My previous employer issued me an Iphone for work, h owever I kept all my private stuff on an old LG phone until 3G was finally dropped in my area.
i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.
Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.
Force the origin sites to use HTTPS? I thought they'd do an HTTPS to HTTP translation on their end if configured to do so. While this does break the intention of end-to-end encryption, it does provide a level of convenience for someone who doesn't want to deal with certificates but still mostly encrypt the transaction.
That's a bandaid until I learn how to do wildcard cert validation through DNS; I haven't gotten around to that yet.
That's a bandaid until I learn how to do wildcard cert validation throu DNS; I haven't gotten around to that yet.
DNS doesn't have anything to do with certs. Wildcard certs are just a cert t
It does when you're validating with Let's Encrypt.
Andre wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
DNS doesn't have anything to do with certs. Wildcard certs are just a
cert that is valid for any subdomain on the certs your domain. It's handled by the web server (or whatever is accepting the web
connection).
Andre wrote to Belly <=-
It does when you're validating with Let's Encrypt.
Doing all that convoluted nonsense with a proxy server just to avoid learning how to add a single TXT record. :-/
The proxying is helpful when you have one IP address, like I do, with a homelab behind it that you'd like to have exposed to the internet - and I'm working with NGINX and proxying at work, so it was a nice transition.
NGINX Proxy Manager is a nice graphical tool for administering a reverse proxy - and with a single LE cert with multiple hostnames attached, it could encrypt all the traffic coming in, then pass off to an internal host on HTTP or an unsigned cert you don't want to expose to the outside world.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am
i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.
Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.
i'd rather have a smart phone.
i'd rather have a smart phone.
My father is a Luddite and is 80 years old. It was a pain to get him to carry a flip phone, and now it's like pulling teeth to get him to use his smart phone. He has committred to learn the phone, but if I knew it would've been this much hassle, I would've kept him using an LTE capable flip phone.
The early 2000's was indeed good for communcations. We had IRC, ICQ, MSN Messenger, Yahoo messenger, good forums and blog, websites. It's wierd, back them I could have people message me on my PC and start a conversation. That doesn't happen now! People use Facebook for that, sort of, but it sucks to have to log into Facebook and have that account to do that.
Sure, we have Matrix, but back in the MSN Messenger days, everyone was using that or Yahoo. Now its disparate programs for Mobile, like WhatsApp, and they're problematic to say the least.
I miss having a rather lightweight chat client running in the background.
My general rule is, don't trust Big Tech, don't trust Californians or
Americans, and especially don't trust people who have "values".
Californians are Americans.. ;)
So yeah the near future will come with TLS enforced. Which kind of
sucks because it will give so much power to certificate authorities
to decide which websites are acceptable and which websites won't be accessible without the user having to wade through dire brower
warnings.
Free certs still require the certificate authority to be on board. Nowadays I don't put it bellow the woke brigade to pest certificate authorities to revoke
the certificates of websites they want to cancel. Free certificate authorities
are not free from this. There is a number of reasons why pestering certificate
authorities is less effective than trying to cajole ISPs but still I think it is dangerous to require people to get the aproval of a CA in order to have a website.
Cloudflare, see above. Besides, I don't like the fact CLoudflare gets to see, analyze and correlate so much Internet traffic. They are a Google-grade threat
for privacy.
Browsers are generally the single biggest vector for attack of a given computer. Over HTTP (Non-S) anyone with control over any routingWeb sites can use either HTTP or HTTPS. They aren't forced to use HTTPS, so I
not sure I see the problem.
Some of them force HTTPS when they don't need to.
The proxying is helpful when you have one IP address, like I do, with a homelab behind it that you'd like to have exposed to the internet - and I'm working with NGINX and proxying at work, so it was a nice transition.
NGINX Proxy Manager is a nice graphical tool for administering a reverse proxy - and with a single LE cert with multiple hostnames attached, it could encrypt all the traffic coming in, then pass off to an internal host on HTTP or an unsigned cert you don't want to expose to the outside world.
i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.
Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am
i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.
Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.
Actually too bad it takes photos... would have been nice for high security facilties that don't care that you have a comm device, but don't want you haveing a camera.
Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.
Re: Re: Hello
By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2022 01:38 am
i just want a cellphone that txts and makes calls and runs linux.
I'm not sure if we have anything decent right now for doing that yet.
Tracfone still offers basic flip phones that text and take pictures.
Actually too bad it takes photos... would have been nice for high security f
Moondog wrote to nostalia <=-
Regarding flip phones, I know companies such as Nokia made retro
re-issues of older phones with newer technology.
They're not the ones that care about tracking us, they care about making t most money with the least spend. We were already tracked well enough on 2g/3g anyways. :)
By retiring the older networks they get to re-use tower space, saving cost They get to force people to buy new phones, increasing revenue. They have more opportunity to charge outrageous overage charges with little or no warning, which increases their revenues.
And, they all know they need to be competitive.
That being said, I wonder what sort of market would be available to T-mobi or another provider if they committed to keeping their legacy networks around? Would there be enough people with flip phones and 3G iphones to ma it a selling point?
Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.
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þ Synchronet þ My Brand-New BBS
The culture is .... varied.
First, there's a bunch of grumpy, angry old men that scream "GET OFF MY LAWN"! Of course, first they need to document the process of screaming, how the scream should be done, who should be able to hear it, etc. They are all part of FidoNet. You can ignore them for the most part.
Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.
Second, like most places on the internet, there's a few trolls. Some are
Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.
Second, like most places on the internet, there's a few trolls. Some are
That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.
Hello, I am new. I set up a small BBS on my old RPi as a small project. I actually haven't used BBSes so much before, so I'm a bit unfamiliar with the culture.
I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts from him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.
That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.
I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts from him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.
DaiTengu wrote to Kyonshi <=-
they say. Third, there's a bunch of really great helpful people of
varying ages that love it when new people show up! They're happy to answer questions, even if they've been asked 100 times before.
(Oftentimes questions often have answers in documentation, so look
there first!) Most have been part of this world for decades, and have
lots of knowlege to share.
Margaerynne wrote to Kyonshi <=-
lots of people with experience in the weirdest fields, and all the
perks of any gathering of people that spend their time on niche boards.
I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts from him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.
Yeah, certainly didn't seem intentional -- it was just oddly amusing how it happened. Rather liked the guy.
Him passing is, of course, what I wonder about. Certainly would hope nothing has happened but sadly you never know... :(
you might need to have your head examined.
i killed him.
Wait, which group are you? :)
That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.
I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts f
m him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.
Dumas Walker wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-f
That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.
I don't know if he was trying to tick people off.
I've wondered if he may have passed away. A while ago, I saw a couple posts
m him on FSX-Net that he was having some health issues.
I think someone had is supposedly real name and tried to find out
if anything happened to him, without success. I got the
impression that he was very mobility restricted. :(
He also ran into some issues when his favorite system to call switched from Synchronet to something else. That was his reason given for ceasing to moderate the MOBILE echo.
I think someone had is supposedly real name and tried to find out if anything happened to him, without success. I got the impression that he
was very mobility restricted. :(
I do think he has passed away, as he often talked about his health
problems (not specifics, but just that he had issues), and I believe he
was last known to be living in a nursing home. Somewhere in Canada as I recall.
That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.
That reminds me, what ever happend to The Millionaire? I enjoyed seeing his... special way of ticking people off.
I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?
I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?
The other day I took a shot with trying to get in contact with a former co sysop of his to see what info they may be able to share, but I've not pushed further. Just waiting for a possible reply that may never come.
Don't know why this kind of bothers me a bit, but it does. Guess it's just in my nature. :\
I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?
Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius
Sad if it's RIP either way...
I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us.
He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022,
so ... RIP TM?
It's sadly the most reasonable conclusion.
The other day I took a shot with trying to get in contact with a former co sysop of his to see what info they may be able to share, but I've not pushed further. Just waiting for a possible reply that may never come.
Don't know why this kind of bothers me a bit, but it does. Guess it's just in my nature. :\
People have done stuff like that before.
remember we have a guy who claims to be god who pops in and out. he's god yet
e can't pay his electricity bill.
Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-yet
People have done stuff like that before.
remember we have a guy who claims to be god who pops in and out. he's god
he can't pay his electricity bill.
Why would he need a bill? He should be able to make his own
electricity, right?
I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no longer with be us. He was having failing health and we have heard from him since June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?
Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius
Honestly it bugs me a bit too. TM seemed to like conversing with people on BBSes (when people were being friendly), and he often talked about running a BBS. I don't think he was running one of his own though, as he only mentioned having an iPad. He had talked about possibly getting a Microsoft Surface tablet to run a BBS on, but I don't think he ever did. Also, he said he was living in a (elderly?) care facility, and I wondered if it would be difficult to run a BBS in a place like that, as you probably wouldn't be able to get ports forwarded to your computer. I think at one point he had mentioned possibly running a BBS in the cloud somewhere so that it would be accessible online.
People have done stuff like that before.
remember we have a guy who claims to be god who pops in and out. he's god yet
e can't pay his electricity bill.
Why would he need a bill? He should be able to make his own electricity, right?
June of 2022, so ... RIP TM?
Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius
Oh, he is/was for real all right.
I think he could have got a bbs to run through marisag but I'm not sure if he followed through or even tried.
Like I said, there's no death notice and that's extremely rare.
I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no
longer with be us.
Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius
Oh, he is/was for real all right.
Hello DM!
** On Tuesday 09.01.24 - 01:26, Digital Man wrote to j0HNNY a1PHA:
I suspect that he (Erich Bublitz of Surrey, B.C.) may no
longer with be us.
Wait, was he for real or an actual troll? Because if the latter, genius
Oh, he is/was for real all right.
The last message I still have in my system from him is Jun 4
2022.
Oh, he is/was for real all right.
well that's the part of being an epic troll. people won't believe it was fake.
seem to recall he did run a (Synchronet) BBS at some time or other and was a
The last message I still have in my system from him is Jun 4
2022.
since you are canandian, do you know any good way of looking up death notices? -+-
There ought to be a general/publicly accessible list of obits.
My understanding is that most of the funeral homes tap into it
and submit info. But I am not aware of any overall obit
registry.
so as a freaking canadian, what would you use without being so general
so as a freaking canadian, what would you use without being so general
I'm saying I don't know of a tried and true reporting system.
My guess would be to check each funeral home in the area and
see if there is a listing.
I seems that once one funeral home posts a listing, the general
internet scrubbing tools pick them up and re-list them into
their own obit sites - filled with ads ofcourse - so that you
I have a friend doing some research looking for Erich. If he
has died, and there is a probated will, then that should also
be publicly available.
I'm saying I don't know of a tried and true reporting system.
My guess would be to check each funeral home in the area and
see if there is a listing.
I seems that once one funeral home posts a listing, the general
internet scrubbing tools pick them up and re-list them into
their own obit sites - filled with ads ofcourse - so that you
okay captain hypothetical!
It sounds like he's not giving you a straight answer because he does not have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American
have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American reporting system, I would say "check google?" because I really don't know
of a good reporting system here, either.
I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a
while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.
It sounds like he's not giving you a straight answer because he does not
have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American
he should just say it.
Re: Hello
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 16 2024 06:59 pm
It sounds like he's not giving you a straight answer because he does not
have one. If the role was reversed and he was asking me for an American
he should just say it.
I think he basically did, didn't he? In an earlier message, he mentioned something about possibly being a publicly accessible list of obits but he isn't aware of an overall obit registry.
while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.
don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up obituaries in your own country.
I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.
he probably used a fake name.
while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.
This is how I want to go out.
don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up >bituaries in your own country.
don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look
up bituaries in your own country.
Especially with social media these days, I feel like if it is someone I am close enough to that I really want to know about it, I am going to find out about it through family, friends, a FB post, or sometimes a BBS network post.
don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up obituaries in your own country.
Re: Hello
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Jan 16 2024 08:59 pm
don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up obituaries in your own country.
Honestly I'm not sure where I'd look up obituaries here.. I'd probably have to Google it.
I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.
he probably used a fake name.
That is what I suspect now.
don't you think that's pretty weird to be an adult and not know how to look up >bituaries in your own country.
Especially with social media these days, I feel like if it is someone I
am
close enough to that I really want to know about it, I am going to find out about it through family, friends, a FB post, or sometimes a BBS network post.
I do run into the rare occassion, like with the missing BBS user, that I don't really know about. Otherwise, I usually find out about deaths
through the above mentioned places.
Especially with social media these days, I feel like if it is someone I am close enough to that I really want to know about it, I am going to find out about it through family, friends, a FB post, or sometimes a BBS network post.
That's my case too. For someone I'm close to, I've always found out through family or friends, via a phone call, text, or social media.
Honestly I'm not sure where I'd look up obituaries here.. I'd probably
have to Google it.
that's pretty bad dude. didn't you ever have a family member die?
That's my case too. For someone I'm close to, I've always found out
through family or friends, via a phone call, text, or social media.
no no no. i don't think ANYBODY found out about the death of a close person, family or friend via obituary. that's just backwards thinking.
i'm thinking former teacher, former coworker, people you knew in highschool, etc.
Re: Hello
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 04:54 am
Honestly I'm not sure where I'd look up obituaries here.. I'd probably
have to Google it.
that's pretty bad dude. didn't you ever have a family member die?
If a family member dies, I'm going to hear about it personally from family. Same with a friend, I'm going to hear about it through other friends.
That's my case too. For someone I'm close to, I've always found out
through family or friends, via a phone call, text, or social media.
no no no. i don't think ANYBODY found out about the death of a
close
person, family or friend via obituary. that's just backwards thinking.
Regarding this, you just wrote to me in another message "haven't you had
a
family member die?"
i assumed people looked at the obit to make sure the info was correct. apparently i have unearthed something.
Again, I could do a Google search to find obituaries. I don't know of a central repository of obituaries.. And even then, sometimes I've heard of people like that passing away through other friends.
I just look on my local newspaper's website for obits.
I have a user who posted nearly every day from here that disappeared a
while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.
he probably used a fake name.
That is what I suspect now.
i miss my one user lenny of repan, real name charles knaper. I think he passed
way. he was crazy about usurper and provided jakob with many ideas.
he was pretty much the life of usurper.
havent you had other jobs? havent you wondered what happened to people in highschool? obits are a good way to see if they are dead.
i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries. you know you are old and people are dying.
Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
Re: Hello
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:00 pm
havent you had other jobs? havent you wondered what happened to people in highschool? obits are a good way to see if they are dead.
Normally I search their name online and on social media first.
But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..
I just look on my local newspaper's website for obits.
That would help for local persons, but few of my users are local enough
to find them there, and none of my family is (unless I were to list it there). My local paper does list some surrounding areas that are even more rural, but I don't think they usually list ones from too far away unless it is someone noteworthy.
Normally I search their name online and on social media first. But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..
i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries. you know you are old and people are dying.
I'm 43, and I didn't think that was very old yet.. I just haven't been in
the habit of looking up obituaries, or even wondering if my friends or people I've known are dead. And if an acquaintenance of mine is someone I haven't even been in contact with for 20+ years, it's probably not going to make much difference to me anyway. It has been a rare case like this where
And I wouldn't say I don't know how to look up obituaries. As I've stated already, I could Google it and find out.
while back. He'd been a user for 20 or so years, and was older. I never could find anything about him.
This is how I want to go out.
i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
you know you are old and people are dying.
Normally I search their name online and on social media first.
But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..
Nor has any other normal person.
Don't forget who you're having this conversation with. That should
explain most of it...
i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
you know you are old and people are dying.
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
Normally I search their name online and on social media first.
But "maybe they're dead" isn't a thought I've often had..
Nor has any other normal person.
Don't forget who you're having this conversation with. That should
explain most of it...
While that is not the immediate reaction to a lot of people
disappearing, I can understand it being one when the person in
question complained about their health as The Millionaire did.
While not true of all sysops, many are older and/or not very
physically active, so that might make it a more-likely conclusion
to jump to in our case. ;)
i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
you know you are old and people are dying.
I think we know how... google them... but don't really know what to do if
we don't find any results.
Re: Hello
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Jan 18 2024 12:01 pm
i'm just suprised you grown men don't know how to look up obituaries.
you know you are old and people are dying.
This reminded me of a point that I'm surprised needs to regularly be made about information hunting on the internet:
I know most of us here understand that concept, but it is worth a refresher that not everything is put online, let alone in a searchable format that's
Re: Hello
What I'm getting at is the fact that a blanket thought of just searching obits = absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a person isn't the best methodology...
everything is fucking put online.
Nopants will be a tough obit search.
just searching obits absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a person isn't the best methodology...
While not true of all sysops, many are older and/or not very
physically active, so that might make it a more-likely conclusion
to jump to in our case. ;)
Probably very correct.
just searching obits absolute knowledge on the living or dead status of a
person isn't the best methodology...
That's why I recommended a chant that goes "Hands vermillion, start of five. Bright cotillion, raven's dive. Nightshade's promise, spirits strive. To the living let now the dead come alive."
Nopants wrote to Gamgee <=-
Oh man. I always assumed Sysops to be sexy MF smart-throbs, no? Image ruined.
Nightfox wrote to Nopants <=-
#beetlejuice
#beetlejuice
#beetlejuice
Re: Re: Hello
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am
#beetlejuice
#beetlejuice
#beetlejuice
#beetlejuice
#beetlejuice
#beetlejuice
ruined.
I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as
well?
Re: Re: Hello
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nopants on Sun Jan 21 2024 10:07 am
ruined.
I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as
well?
I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?
https://imgur.com/undefined
I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as well?
I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?
https://imgur.com/undefined
I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as well?
I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?
https://imgur.com/undefined
I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?
https://imgur.com/undefined
not surprised considering the source.
Re: Re: Hello
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 07:34 am
I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?
https://imgur.com/undefined
not surprised considering the source.
Why are you responding to me? I didn't write what you quoted.
I have my BBS mounted above my weight bench, assumed others did as well?
I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?
https://imgur.com/undefined
That doesn't look like a valid URL to me..?
I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?
https://imgur.com/undefined
not surprised considering the source.
I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?
You know I used the copy url link in imgur and didn't even look at it lol.
I asked again and the results were not as great -
https://imgur.com/g0CJHgH
Re: Re: Hello
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 29 2024 07:34 am
I asked AI to generate your rig. Is this accurate?
https://imgur.com/undefined
not surprised considering the source.
It's all the vaccines I've taken eating my brain.
| Sysop: | Tandy |
|---|---|
| Location: | New York, USA |
| Users: | 15 |
| Nodes: | 13 (0 / 13) |
| Uptime: | 16:09:41 |
| Calls: | 335 |
| Messages: | 112,963 |
