I blame people not having local BBS's to log in to and we don't
'know our neighbors' anymore...
I have never lived anywhere that we had neighborhood get-togethers. OTOH, my sister and her husband live in a neighborhood where a lot of them get together and celebrate holidays. They had a 1980's Ski Lodge themed NYE party that looks like it was fun. That way no one had to drive... they could all walk home.
I've been rude to them but they keep putting their fliers in my mailbox.
I've been rude to them but they keep putting their fliers in my mailbox.
So they are persistent, like Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons? :)
Dumas Walker wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I blame people not having local BBS's to log in to and we don't
'know our neighbors' anymore...
When I was growing up, I think my parents knew our next-door neighbors
and a few others because they either (a) had kids our age, or (b) had
kids old enough to babysit.
It seems like as I have got older, people don't get to know their neighbors as much. At my last house, my next door neighbors on one
side rarely ever spoke to me, and this was in a neighborhood where the houses were less than 10 yards apart.
I have never lived anywhere that we had neighborhood get-togethers.
OTOH, my sister and her husband live in a neighborhood where a lot of
them get together and celebrate holidays. They had a 1980's Ski Lodge themed NYE party that looks like it was fun. That way no one had to drive... they could all walk home.
I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)
Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
out the outside world...
I think there's a lot of truth to that!
It does make a lot of sense. The kids don't play outside as much anymore, either. In the case of some of our local kids, that is a good thing. Whenever they are outside they are screaming at their parents or tearing (other people's) stuff up. :O ;)
Dumas Walker wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I blame people not having local BBS's to log in to and we don't
'know our neighbors' anymore...
When I was growing up, I think my parents knew our next-door neighbors and a few others because they either (a) had kids our age, or (b) had kids old enough to babysit.
It seems like as I have got older, people don't get to know their neighbors as much. At my last house, my next door neighbors on one side rarely ever spoke to me, and this was in a neighborhood where the houses were less than 10 yards apart.
I have never lived anywhere that we had neighborhood get-togethers. OTOH, my sister and her husband live in a neighborhood where a lot of them get together and celebrate holidays. They had a 1980's Ski Lodge themed NYE party that looks like it was fun. That way no one had to drive... they could all walk home.
Sounds like a GREAT idea!
I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)
Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
out the outside world...
I think there's a lot of truth to that!
... Shell to DOS, come in DOS, do you copy? Over...
When Frank Lloyd Wright made his first concept of a modern house, there was no front porch and the "front" door was placed on the side of the house adjace nt to the driveway. He believed that the front porch was a remnant
FLW was horrible. dude was nuts. There's several of his houses and copycats in my home city. he had a lot of beliefs. lots of flat roofs and leaky houses.
Re: Re: Knowing Neighbors
By: Moondog to Jimmy Anderson on Sun Jan 08 2023 02:24 pm
When Frank Lloyd Wright made his first concept of a modern house, there no front porch and the "front" door was placed on the side of the house adjace nt to the driveway. He believed that the front porch was a remnan
FLW was horrible. dude was nuts. There's several of his houses and copycat
he was a fan of brick and wood and uncomfortable seating.
https://i.imgur.com/tVjvFeQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/gQggu5l.png
If i had the money i would buy his houses and bulldoze them.
FLW was horrible. dude was nuts. There's several of his houses and copycats in my home city. he had a lot of beliefs. lots of flat roofs and leaky houses.
Ha I don't doubt it. I like some of his ideas but I think people took his style and applied it in a way that I find more...well, pleasing and livable. If you ever drive through Palm Springs, it has countless examples of this aesthetic done in a way I find tasteful and timeless.
he was a fan of brick and wood and uncomfortable seating.
https://i.imgur.com/tVjvFeQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/gQggu5l.png
If i had the money i would buy his houses and bulldoze them.
I agree about the furniture and leaky ceilings. With regards to the invention of the automobile, the front porch became obsolete when traffic began moving faster than conversation could be conducted. A side or service entrance facing the driveway makes more sense.
Re: Re: Knowing NeighborsIf you live in a suburb or have neighbors that walk by, it may make sense.
By: Moondog to MRO on Sun Jan 08 2023 10:10 pm
he was a fan of brick and wood and uncomfortable seating.
https://i.imgur.com/tVjvFeQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/gQggu5l.png
If i had the money i would buy his houses and bulldoze them.
I agree about the furniture and leaky ceilings. With regards to the invention of the automobile, the front porch became obsolete when traffic began moving faster than conversation could be conducted. A side or serv entrance facing the driveway makes more sense.
they still build new houses with front porches. people loved screened in por
If you live in a suburb or have neighbors that walk by, it may make sense. If you live by a busy road or the middle of nowhere, a deck or porch that overlooks the backyard or has a scenic sunset view is preferrable. The folks
I know who have garages they actually park in use the side entrance and front door is unused and the front yard isn't played in.
Re: Re: Knowing Neighbors
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Jan 09 2023 09:49 pm
If you live in a suburb or have neighbors that walk by, it may make sense If you live by a busy road or the middle of nowhere, a deck or porch that overlooks the backyard or has a scenic sunset view is preferrable. The folks
I know who have garages they actually park in use the side entrance and front door is unused and the front yard isn't played in.
it doesnt matter that they walk into their side entrance of an attached gara
The idea design for houses is to have a front and back porch.
https://eyeonhousing.org/2021/09/share-of-new-homes-with-porches-back-over-6
"Among other things, the latest BPS report (covering homes built in 2020) sh end to be larger-about 143 square feet, on average, compared to roughly 99 s
Women want a porch where they can hang their flowers. they can get a rockin
What women want drive house development and design.
DUMAS WALKER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)
Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
out the outside world...
I think there's a lot of truth to that!
It does make a lot of sense. The kids don't play outside as much
anymore, either. In the case of some of our local kids, that is a good thing. Whenever they are outside they are screaming at their parents or tearing (other people's) stuff up. :O ;)
MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)
Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
out the outside world...
I think there's a lot of truth to that!
When Frank Lloyd Wright made his first concept of a modern house,
there was no front porch and the "front" door was placed on the side of the house adjace nt to the driveway. He believed that the front porch
was a remnant of when pe ople walked and rode horse and carriage, and
they moved along slpw enough you can have a conversation with passesrs
by. That allows the front door to be more useful when greeting guests stepping out of their cars in the driveway.
Regarding next door neighbors, either I know them from growing up,
khowing th eir kids, knowing them because their kids played sports with
my neice and nephews, or through church.
Nowadays I know half of my neighbors, but know little about them or
have no social threads with them.
It seems like the neighbors were closer or more friendly during my parent's generation. I also think that is because everyone here was
from around here, and an acquaitance of an acquaintance. These people were all from the area within the county, and the older families had
large families so it was hard to avoid not knowing someone from a
family.
MOONDOG wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)
Let me explain... Before window screens, you might as well go outside
to cool off, since the flies would come in. Then screens came along
and you could stay inside, but still talk through the windows. Then
air conditioners meant you could shut the windows, thus shutting
out the outside world...
I think there's a lot of truth to that!
When Frank Lloyd Wright made his first concept of a modern house, there was no front porch and the "front" door was placed on the side of the house adjace nt to the driveway. He believed that the front porch was a remnant of when pe ople walked and rode horse and carriage, and they moved along slpw enough you can have a conversation with passesrs by. That allows the front door to be more useful when greeting guests stepping out of their cars in the driveway.
I can see that! I guess that also explains why the porches were so HUGE before too!
Regarding next door neighbors, either I know them from growing up, khowing th eir kids, knowing them because their kids played sports with my neice and nephews, or through church.
Nowadays I know half of my neighbors, but know little about them or have no social threads with them.
It seems like the neighbors were closer or more friendly during my parent's generation. I also think that is because everyone here was from around here, and an acquaitance of an acquaintance. These people were all from the area within the county, and the older families had large families so it was hard to avoid not knowing someone from a family.
Yeah. It's so much easier to travel today, and much easier to actually
PICK UP AND MOVE farther and farther away.
... I before E except after C, huh? Weird!
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-
DUMAS WALKER wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I remember reading something Garrison Keillor wrote a long time ago -
air conditioners are the reason we don't know our neighbors. :-)
Also, neignbors run their AC 24/7 and put the compressor where they
can't hear it but their neighbors can.
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