• Re: covid

    From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Mon Dec 20 17:59:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Dumas Walker to DR. WHAT on Mon Dec 20 2021 04:55 pm

    Yup. Big box stores could stay open since they were deemed
    "essential" by the Elites. Mom and pop stores had to close - and many
    have never come back.

    The whole scamdemic caused a massive money shift toward the already-wealthy

    "But but but but but the Demmicrats never do anything to hurt the little guy. They hate the wealthy!"

    And they never lie either.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/CFBBS to Denn on Tue Dec 21 03:26:00 2021
    Denn wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Unfortunatly the Democrats get away with their crimes, they must keep
    a blackbook on Republicans for insurance.

    That's why I don't put my hope into any establishment Republican.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENN on Tue Dec 21 10:55:00 2021
    "But but but but but the Demmicrats never do anything to hurt the little guy. They hate the wealthy!"

    And they never lie either.

    Nor do their TDS-riddled followers.


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  • From Joe Phigan@VERT/ZRUSPAS to HusTler on Tue Dec 21 23:44:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: HusTler to Nightfox on Sun Dec 12 2021 07:02:03

    How do you ask a chick out on a date if you can't see there face. I have

    I was just having a conversation about this last night. Dude's sons have had the same GFs since before the pandemic, and their friends that were single have not gone out with anyone since before the pandemic. Kids are being less social and not meeting new people when they normally probably would.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dumas Walker on Tue Dec 21 18:53:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Dumas Walker to DENN on Tue Dec 21 2021 03:55 pm

    "But but but but but the Demmicrats never do anything to hurt the
    little guy. They hate the wealthy!"

    And they never lie either.

    Nor do their TDS-riddled followers.

    CNN And Truth An Oxymoron ?

    https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2020/09/18/cnn-and-truth-an-oxymoron/

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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to Joe Phigan on Wed Dec 22 00:58:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Joe Phigan to HusTler on Wed Dec 22 2021 04:44 am

    How do you ask a chick out on a date if you can't see there face. I have

    I was just having a conversation about this last night. Dude's sons have had the same GFs since before the pandemic, and their friends that were single h not gone out with anyone since before the pandemic. Kids are being less soci

    I had the same GF for 3 years in Highschool. There was no pandemic.

    |07 HusTler


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Joe Phigan on Wed Dec 22 01:12:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Joe Phigan to HusTler on Wed Dec 22 2021 04:44 am

    Re: Re: covid
    By: HusTler to Nightfox on Sun Dec 12 2021 07:02:03

    How do you ask a chick out on a date if you can't see there face. I have

    I was just having a conversation about this last night. Dude's sons have had the sa
    GFs since before the pandemic, and their friends that were single have not gone out
    with anyone since before the pandemic. Kids are being less social and not meeting n
    people when they normally probably would.


    I think my date selection algorythm is out of sync with everybody else's.

    Pseudocode follows:

    for each $person in @potentialMates {
    if ( acceptableAge($person) && isFemale($person) && ! isAsshole($person) ) {
    if ( likesHorses ($person) && myHorsesLike($person)) {
    proposalStatus = proposeDate($person);
    unless proposalStatus {
    useChlorophorm($person);
    exit(SUCCESS);
    } else {
    romanticDate($person);
    exit(SUCCESS)
    }
    } else {
    discard($person);
    }
    }

    // If we are here,none of the @potentialMates satisfies my
    // sophisticate standards.

    watchBadFilmWithBourbonAlone(selectRandomFilm());

    exit(SUCCESS_2);

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Wed Dec 22 03:09:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: HusTler to Joe Phigan on Wed Dec 22 2021 05:58 am

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Joe Phigan to HusTler on Wed Dec 22 2021 04:44 am

    How do you ask a chick out on a date if you can't see there face. I have

    I was just having a conversation about this last night. Dude's sons have had the same GFs since before the pandemic, and their friends that were single h not gone out with anyone since before the pandemic. Kids are being less soci

    I had the same GF for 3 years in Highschool. There was no pandemic.


    rosie palm?
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENN on Wed Dec 22 11:08:00 2021
    "But but but but but the Demmicrats never do anything to hurt the DW>> little guy. They hate the wealthy!"

    And they never lie either.

    Nor do their TDS-riddled followers.

    CNN And Truth An Oxymoron ?

    I cannot disagree with that.


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to HusTler on Wed Dec 22 19:15:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: HusTler to Joe Phigan on Wed Dec 22 2021 05:58 am

    How do you ask a chick out on a date if you can't see there face. I
    have

    I was just having a conversation about this last night. Dude's sons
    have had the same GFs since before the pandemic, and their friends
    that were single h not gone out with anyone since before the pandemic.
    Kids are being less soci

    I had the same GF for 3 years in Highschool. There was no pandemic.

    I've had the same GF for well over 20 years.

    ... 9 out of 10 men who try camels prefer women.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Denn on Thu Dec 23 02:55:00 2021
    Denn wrote to HusTler <=-

    I had the same GF for 3 years in Highschool. There was no pandemic.

    I've had the same GF for well over 20 years.

    I purchased the upgrades for mine.

    The Fiancee upgrade was expensive, though. Lots of $$$ for the ring.
    The Wife upgrade was even more expensive, but you pay on the installment plan.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Thu Dec 23 04:21:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to HusTler on Thu Dec 23 2021 12:15 am

    I had the same GF for 3 years in Highschool. There was no pandemic.

    I've had the same GF for well over 20 years.

    Sorry for your loss.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thu Dec 23 08:04:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Dr. What on Fri Dec 17 2021 06:37 am

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Thu Dec 16 2021 08:06 am

    MRO wrote to Denn <=-

    so what would you use it for? i dont get why people want these thing you can buy an optiplex on ebay and have something better.

    So in my home, I have:
    + Pi0W emulating a Tandy Portable Disk Drive for my Tandy 102.
    + Pi3 as an MP3 player (built into an old radio case).
    + Pi3 as an MP3 player with a touch screen for controls.
    + Pi4 as a NAS, with a second Pi4 as cold standby.
    + Pi4 as a video player on our main TV.
    + Pi3 as a electronics experiment lab (CrowPi 2).


    oh, i just use 40-80 dollar optiplexes i get on ebay for that.

    i have one running on the tv doing all that media stuff and about 4 in the b

    Size and form factor are reasons i like using Pi's and other single board
    pc's. I can stuff several pi's into a gutted mid-tower case and use it as a tiny rack space.

    Power (as in kwh) is another plus when switch from using an older box
    with a 300-550W psu to a less than 15W. I have a few old Optiplexes and Dimensions gave me, but they are older P4 systems that also act as space heaters. A pi or other sbc takes up the space of a pack of cigarettes and
    are easier to secure to the underside or leg of a desk than a mid tower.

    From a reliabilty perspective I also ponder whether I trust a 10-20 year old desktop running 24/7 for some tasks unattended. Some of the pc's I had from the early 2000's suffered from swollen capacitors. Some of the linux distros
    I use have been moving away from maintaining a 32 bit version, which affects the use of some of my older pc's unless I abandon them at a certain release level and shut off updates.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Denn on Thu Dec 23 08:23:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Sat Dec 18 2021 12:03 am

    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Denn on Fri Dec 17 2021 11:27 pm

    i have one running on the tv doing all that media stuff and about MR>> 4 in the basement probably gathering mold.

    a Raspberry PI is credit card size, they get used so there is no mold
    or dust collecting. :)

    eh, still not worth it.

    Ok the Raspberry PI isn't for everyone I guess, but I love the two I have.

    ... Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.

    We live in a great time regarding our choice of computing options. In the middle of full sized pc's and single board pc's are the mini-ITX systems with angled riser boards and extension ribbons to connect cards without having to deal with the standard board height dictating the height or width of a case. Yesterday I was watching a video where a pfsense box was being built in a 1U rackmount chassis. The hardware used wasn't the highest end, but was new old stock and much more reliable than a desktop that was purchased of a refresh/ life cycle replacement. It offered more functionality than relying on only
    USB port like you would with a stardard non-compute module pi.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Thu Dec 23 08:38:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Sat Dec 18 2021 10:43 am

    I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in Europe we have a qui fragile power grid. We have invested heavily in the sort of renewable ener that has trouble producing electrical power at the correct frequency and i correct sync.

    Whenever renewable energy comes up in another political forum, some will mention the shortcomings while others attempt to shout them down with "... but in Europe they... " like it is all moonbeams and lollypops over there.

    Always nice to get the perspective of someone who actually lives there.


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    It is not a wise policy to keep all your eggs in one basket. Coal and gas
    are not going away, but can be made nearly twice as efficient without taking away from the profit margin. Wind and solar are better off as additions to
    the power strategy rather than replacements. We have several smaller hydro plants in my area that were made over 100 years ago, and they are quite
    capable of putting out more power, but are throttled down to regulate the
    lake and river levels. The nail in the coffin for nuclear was when Yucca Mountain was axed. The local nuclear plants had to re-purpose land reserved for newer reactors to be used for onsite cask storage now. Even after the plants are decomissioned, a new home for the spent rods is not guaranteed.

    It's like everyone wants to buy into all or nothing deals without looking at how it impacts people in the worst ways.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thu Dec 23 08:43:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 18 2021 01:10 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Sat Dec 18 2021 10:43 am

    I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in Europe we have a quite fragile power grid. We have invested heavily in the sort of renewable energy that has trouble producing electrical power at the correct frequency and in th
    correct sync.

    Whenever renewable energy comes up in another political forum, some will mention the shortcomings while others attempt to shout them down with ".. but in Europe they... " like it is all moonbeams and lollypops over there

    Always nice to get the perspective of someone who actually lives there.


    unfortunately, renewable energy is fucking bullshit. i wish it wasn't, but i

    it would be great to have some solar panels on the top of the house and not pay electric.

    I was looking in solar and wind solutions on my farm, and replacing my roof with panels would allow me to sligthly do better than break even, provided the y last 30 years with minimal maintenance required for the panels and
    batteries. The price of power will always go up over time, but if it stayed the same over 30 years I would probably take a loss relying on solar in sw Michigan.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Denn on Thu Dec 23 08:45:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Sat Dec 18 2021 10:52 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 18 2021 01:10 pm

    I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in Europe we have >> a quite fragile power grid. We have invested heavily in the sort of
    renewable energy that has trouble producing electrical power at the
    correct frequency and in th
    correct sync.

    Whenever renewable energy comes up in another political forum, some
    will mention the shortcomings while others attempt to shout them down
    with "... but in Europe they... " like it is all moonbeams and
    lollypops over there.

    Always nice to get the perspective of someone who actually lives there.


    unfortunately, renewable energy is fucking bullshit. i wish it wasn't, it is.

    Only decent renewable energy is Hydro Electric, Wind mills need wind,
    Solar Panels need sun.


    ... A man attempting to walk around the world DROWNED today..


    Hydro cannot run full capacity due to river levels and how it affects
    property above and behind the dam.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thu Dec 23 08:50:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Denn on Sun Dec 19 2021 12:39 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Sat Dec 18 2021 10:52 pm

    Only decent renewable energy is Hydro Electric, Wind mills need wind, Solar Panels need sun.


    and you need falling water for that. and solar panels dont work great every

    Tidal power generates power filling a resevoir at high tide, then generates when expelling water at low tide.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Thu Dec 23 08:54:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Dec 19 2021 02:00 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Dec 19 2021 12:43 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Arelor to Denn on Sun Dec 19 2021 08:53 am

    Biomass is quite ok at small escale. You gotta love lighting on the fireplace and enjoying the warmth while readin a book with a glass of bourbon :-)


    yeah but doomer is doing that and spending a lot of money.

    Because he drinks too much bourbon?

    Jokes aside, I have a traditional heating system with a boiler and everythin but I find it convenient to keep it at a lower temperature than I would and just light the fireplace up when I feel like I need it.

    This is also a wood producing village so there are tree leftovers for the gr by the road a big part of the year. I would not be able to heat the house on leftovers alone, but as a supporting heating system it gets the job done.

    If you are gonna go 19th century style and use wood as the only heating sour you need to go all in, keep the fireplace going all day, and use it for the cooking :-)

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    I run my oil furnace at a lower level, and supplement it by burning wood. The
    power company sends crews out every summer to trim branches around power lines, and I ask them to leave the tops rather than grind them up so we can have firewood

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thu Dec 23 19:13:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Dec 23 2021 01:04 pm

    with a 300-550W psu to a less than 15W. I have a few old Optiplexes and Dimensions gave me, but they are older P4 systems that also act as space heaters. A pi or other sbc takes up the space of a pack of cigarettes and are easier to secure to the underside or leg of a desk than a mid tower.

    yeah those are poorly made and create a lot of heat. i had one that would just overheat unless i had a box fan on it.

    desktop running 24/7 for some tasks unattended. Some of the pc's I had from the early 2000's suffered from swollen capacitors. Some of the linux distros
    I use have been moving away from maintaining a 32 bit version, which affects


    that stuff should have exploded by now and you should have probably tossed it anyways.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thu Dec 23 19:14:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Dec 23 2021 01:50 pm

    and you need falling water for that. and solar panels dont work great every

    Tidal power generates power filling a resevoir at high tide, then generates when expelling water at low tide.

    didnt' i just say that?
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Dr. What on Thu Dec 23 19:34:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Dr. What to Denn on Thu Dec 23 2021 07:55 am

    I had the same GF for 3 years in Highschool. There was no pandemic.

    I've had the same GF for well over 20 years.

    I purchased the upgrades for mine.

    The Fiancee upgrade was expensive, though. Lots of $$$ for the ring.
    The Wife upgrade was even more expensive, but you pay on the installment plan.

    My GF is my wife :)

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Thu Dec 23 19:36:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Denn on Thu Dec 23 2021 09:21 am

    I had the same GF for 3 years in Highschool. There was no
    pandemic.

    I've had the same GF for well over 20 years.

    Sorry for your loss.

    She's my wife, lol.




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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Fri Dec 24 00:02:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Dec 23 2021 01:04 pm

    Size and form factor are reasons i like using Pi's and other single board pc's. I can stuff several pi's into a gutted mid-tower case and use it as a tiny rack space.

    Power (as in kwh) is another plus when switch from using an older box
    with a 300-550W psu to a less than 15W. I have a few old Optiplexes and Dimensions gave me, but they are older P4 systems that also act as space heaters. A pi or other sbc takes up the space of a pack of cigarettes and are easier to secure to the underside or leg of a desk than a mid tower.

    From a reliabilty perspective I also ponder whether I trust a 10-20 year old desktop running 24/7 for some tasks unattended. Some of the pc's I had from the early 2000's suffered from swollen capacitors. Some of the linux distro I use have been moving away from maintaining a 32 bit version, which affects the use of some of my older pc's unless I abandon them at a certain release level and shut off updates.


    I agree regarding size and power consumption.

    Reliability of old hardware does not seem to be an issue here. Swollen capacitors are a problem but I have only suffered fireworks from 15 years old hardware once. I use a lot of 15 years old hardware. A LOT.

    Linux distributions dropping support for 32 bit are just an excuse to migrate those machines to OpenBSD or a distribution that still supports 32 bit. I don't blame mainstream distributions for dropping 32 bitr support but there are just many operating systems and distributions left to use instead.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Fri Dec 24 00:10:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Dec 23 2021 01:43 pm

    I was looking in solar and wind solutions on my farm, and replacing my roof with panels would allow me to sligthly do better than break even, provided t y last 30 years with minimal maintenance required for the panels and batteries. The price of power will always go up over time, but if it stayed the same over 30 years I would probably take a loss relying on solar in sw Michigan.


    With current prices, you can break even with solar quite reliably, IMO.

    The problem with solar nowadays is not the price, because if you can afford it, it is more cost effective than grid supply.

    The problem with solar is the reliability of the power supply you get instead. If you get more cloudy days than your power storage can support, your power goes down. If a single panel in a solar array has an issue, the array goes down. If you attempt to power multiple machines with moving parts at once using a cheap solar kit, you are unlikely to be able to power them on.

    These problems can be solved throwing money at them, but most installers around here seem focused on selling you a cheap solar deployment instead of one that will keep the milking machines running no matter what.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Fri Dec 24 07:58:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Fri Dec 24 2021 12:36 am

    pandemic.

    I've had the same GF for well over 20 years.

    Sorry for your loss.

    She's my wife, lol.


    that sucks.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Fri Dec 24 04:20:00 2021
    Moondog wrote to Denn <=-

    height or width of a case. Yesterday I was watching a video where a pfsense box was being built in a 1U rackmount chassis. The hardware
    used wasn't the highest end

    pfSense doesn't require a lot of hardware to move packets. I have a decommissioned pfSense box at work, and looked under the hood. In a 2U box
    was a desktop mobo with a core 2 duo and 2 GB of RAM. It handled 3 networks, OpenVPN and DNS/DHCP just fine.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Arelor on Sat Dec 25 04:27:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to Moondog <=-

    @MSGID: <61C5A8E1.26176.dove-general@palantirbbs.ddns.net>
    @REPLY: <61C4BA44.76474.dove-gen@cavebbs.homeip.net>
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu
    Dec 23 2021 01:04 pm

    Size and form factor are reasons i like using Pi's and other single board pc's. I can stuff several pi's into a gutted mid-tower case and use it as a tiny rack space.

    Power (as in kwh) is another plus when switch from using an older box
    with a 300-550W psu to a less than 15W. I have a few old Optiplexes and Dimensions gave me, but they are older P4 systems that also act as space heaters. A pi or other sbc takes up the space of a pack of cigarettes and are easier to secure to the underside or leg of a desk than a mid tower.

    From a reliabilty perspective I also ponder whether I trust a 10-20 year old desktop running 24/7 for some tasks unattended. Some of the pc's I had from the early 2000's suffered from swollen capacitors. Some of the linux distro I use have been moving away from maintaining a 32 bit version, which affects the use of some of my older pc's unless I abandon them at a certain release level and shut off updates.


    I agree regarding size and power consumption.

    Reliability of old hardware does not seem to be an issue here. Swollen capacitors are a problem but I have only suffered fireworks from 15
    years old hardware once. I use a lot of 15 years old hardware. A LOT.

    Linux distributions dropping support for 32 bit are just an excuse to migrate those machines to OpenBSD or a distribution that still supports
    32 bit. I don't blame mainstream distributions for dropping 32 bitr support but there are just many operating systems and distributions
    left to use instead.

    Debian still supports 32 bit, as do a few others I think, like Q4OS. I've got 25+ year old hardware that still works just fine.

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  • From Nig@VERT/VIPERBBS to Denn on Fri Dec 24 23:04:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Sat Dec 18 2021 22:52:57

    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sat Dec 18 2021 01:10 pm

    I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in Europe we have >> a quite fragile power grid. We have invested heavily in the sort of
    renewable energy that has trouble producing electrical power at the
    correct frequency and in th
    correct sync.

    Whenever renewable energy comes up in another political forum, some
    will mention the shortcomings while others attempt to shout them down
    with "... but in Europe they... " like it is all moonbeams and
    lollypops over there.

    Always nice to get the perspective of someone who actually lives there.


    unfortunately, renewable energy is fucking bullshit. i wish it wasn't, but it is

    Only decent renewable energy is Hydro Electric, Wind mills need wind,
    Solar Panels need sun.


    ... A man attempting to walk around the world DROWNED today..

    that's not the case in africa, the su
    the sun is always there, and the wind is in the middle of the ocean. its shit for
    europe, but its real biz shit for africa. there are no deserts in europe.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Nig on Sat Dec 25 08:21:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nig to Denn on Sat Dec 25 2021 04:04 am

    Only decent renewable energy is Hydro Electric, Wind mills need wind,
    Solar Panels need sun.

    that's not the case in africa, the su
    the sun is always there, and the wind is in the middle of the ocean. its

    The sun is always there? Even at night?

    Nightfox

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nig on Sat Dec 25 09:30:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nig to Denn on Sat Dec 25 2021 04:04 am

    I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in Europe we
    have a quite fragile power grid. We have invested heavily in the
    sort of renewable energy that has trouble producing electrical
    power at the correct frequency and in th
    correct sync.

    that's not the case in africa, the su
    the sun is always there, and the wind is in the middle of the ocean. its shit for europe, but its real biz shit for africa. there are no deserts in europe.

    Soalr looks good for you then but we have many cloudy days here in America.

    ... THE LEAST EXPERIENCED FISHERMAN ALWAYS CATCHES THE BIGGEST FISH.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nig on Sat Dec 25 12:48:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nig to Denn on Sat Dec 25 2021 04:04 am

    Only decent renewable energy is Hydro Electric, Wind mills need wind, Solar Panels need sun.


    ... A man attempting to walk around the world DROWNED today..

    that's not the case in africa, the su
    the sun is always there, and the wind is in the middle of the ocean. its shi for europe, but its real biz shit for africa. there are no deserts in europe


    In the desert they cheat by using actual boilers that move turbines. They use parabolic mirrors to heat water until the steam powers a regular turbine, hence getting quality supply.

    I always think that the problem there has to be moving so much water into the middle of the desert :-)

    Solar for domestic heating is also not so bad, but then we are not talking about photoelectric. I am talking about thermosolar, when you run water
    through pipes that are exposed to the sun. Also, hot water can be accumulated for later much easily than electricity, so you can save hot water up in an isolated tank and use it when you need a hot shower. Its main drawback is
    that the circuit of the thermosolar system needs a whole lot of toxic chemicals in order to be stable and not to crack when it freezes outside.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Sat Dec 25 12:49:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nightfox to Nig on Sat Dec 25 2021 01:21 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nig to Denn on Sat Dec 25 2021 04:04 am

    Only decent renewable energy is Hydro Electric, Wind mills need wind,
    Solar Panels need sun.

    that's not the case in africa, the su
    the sun is always there, and the wind is in the middle of the ocean. it

    The sun is always there? Even at night?

    Nightfox


    Sunlight reflects on the moon, so you can get solar light even at night. Some nights, at least...
    --
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sat Dec 25 13:58:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nightfox to Nig on Sat Dec 25 2021 01:21 pm

    that's not the case in africa, the su
    the sun is always there, and the wind is in the middle of the ocean. its

    The sun is always there? Even at night?

    yes, captain autistic, that is what he meant.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sat Dec 25 15:34:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Moondog on Fri Dec 24 2021 12:13 am

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Dec 23 2021 01:04 pm

    with a 300-550W psu to a less than 15W. I have a few old Optiplexes and Dimensions gave me, but they are older P4 systems that also act as space heaters. A pi or other sbc takes up the space of a pack of cigarettes an are easier to secure to the underside or leg of a desk than a mid tower.

    yeah those are poorly made and create a lot of heat. i had one that would ju

    desktop running 24/7 for some tasks unattended. Some of the pc's I had f the early 2000's suffered from swollen capacitors. Some of the linux distros
    I use have been moving away from maintaining a 32 bit version, which affe


    that stuff should have exploded by now and you should have probably tossed i

    At the time I stored them, they were still good for something. I'm a
    hoarder and have trouble getting rid of stuff that is operational. The
    problem is old doesn't always mean obsolete. Practical, well that's another story!

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sat Dec 25 15:36:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Moondog on Fri Dec 24 2021 12:14 am

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Dec 23 2021 01:50 pm

    and you need falling water for that. and solar panels dont work great every

    Tidal power generates power filling a resevoir at high tide, then generat when expelling water at low tide.

    didnt' i just say that?

    Yes, but when most people think of falling water, they think of conventional rivers and streams rather than tidal forces

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Sat Dec 25 15:45:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Fri Dec 24 2021 05:02 am

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Dec 23 2021 01:04 pm

    Size and form factor are reasons i like using Pi's and other single board pc's. I can stuff several pi's into a gutted mid-tower case and use it a tiny rack space.

    Power (as in kwh) is another plus when switch from using an older box with a 300-550W psu to a less than 15W. I have a few old Optiplexes and Dimensions gave me, but they are older P4 systems that also act as space heaters. A pi or other sbc takes up the space of a pack of cigarettes an are easier to secure to the underside or leg of a desk than a mid tower.

    From a reliabilty perspective I also ponder whether I trust a 10-20 year desktop running 24/7 for some tasks unattended. Some of the pc's I had f the early 2000's suffered from swollen capacitors. Some of the linux dis I use have been moving away from maintaining a 32 bit version, which affe the use of some of my older pc's unless I abandon them at a certain relea level and shut off updates.


    I agree regarding size and power consumption.

    Reliability of old hardware does not seem to be an issue here. Swollen capacitors are a problem but I have only suffered fireworks from 15 years ol hardware once. I use a lot of 15 years old hardware. A LOT.

    Linux distributions dropping support for 32 bit are just an excuse to migrat those machines to OpenBSD or a distribution that still supports 32 bit. I do blame mainstream distributions for dropping 32 bitr support but there are ju many operating systems and distributions left to use instead.


    --
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    I see it as an opportunity to forage for new hardware, whether it is store bought or hand me down. I've become used to den not sounding like a server ro om.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Sat Dec 25 15:50:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Fri Dec 24 2021 05:10 am

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Dec 23 2021 01:43 pm

    I was looking in solar and wind solutions on my farm, and replacing my ro with panels would allow me to sligthly do better than break even, provide y last 30 years with minimal maintenance required for the panels and batteries. The price of power will always go up over time, but if it sta the same over 30 years I would probably take a loss relying on solar in s Michigan.


    With current prices, you can break even with solar quite reliably, IMO.

    The problem with solar nowadays is not the price, because if you can afford it is more cost effective than grid supply.

    The problem with solar is the reliability of the power supply you get instea If you get more cloudy days than your power storage can support, your power goes down. If a single panel in a solar array has an issue, the array goes down. If you attempt to power multiple machines with moving parts at once us a cheap solar kit, you are unlikely to be able to power them on.

    These problems can be solved throwing money at them, but most installers aro here seem focused on selling you a cheap solar deployment instead of one tha will keep the milking machines running no matter what.

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    If I lived further south, I'd consider it, but where I'm at, the current solar s studies from existing solar users aren't providing the same numbers the salespeople are pitching.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Dec 25 16:08:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Fri Dec 24 2021 09:20 am

    Moondog wrote to Denn <=-

    height or width of a case. Yesterday I was watching a video where a pfsense box was being built in a 1U rackmount chassis. The hardware used wasn't the highest end

    pfSense doesn't require a lot of hardware to move packets. I have a decommissioned pfSense box at work, and looked under the hood. In a 2U box was a desktop mobo with a core 2 duo and 2 GB of RAM. It handled 3 networks, OpenVPN and DNS/DHCP just fine.


    ... When in doubt, predict that the trend will continue.

    No arguments about necessary cpu or memory requirements. There are times I'd rather go with something different than an old desktop saved from the recycler .

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Boraxman on Sat Dec 25 16:13:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Boraxman to Arelor on Sat Dec 25 2021 09:27 am

    Arelor wrote to Moondog <=-

    @MSGID: <61C5A8E1.26176.dove-general@palantirbbs.ddns.net>
    @REPLY: <61C4BA44.76474.dove-gen@cavebbs.homeip.net>
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu
    Dec 23 2021 01:04 pm

    Size and form factor are reasons i like using Pi's and other single board pc's. I can stuff several pi's into a gutted mid-tower case and use it a tiny rack space.

    Power (as in kwh) is another plus when switch from using an older box with a 300-550W psu to a less than 15W. I have a few old Optiplexes and Dimensions gave me, but they are older P4 systems that also act as space heaters. A pi or other sbc takes up the space of a pack of cigarettes an are easier to secure to the underside or leg of a desk than a mid tower.

    From a reliabilty perspective I also ponder whether I trust a 10-20 year desktop running 24/7 for some tasks unattended. Some of the pc's I had f the early 2000's suffered from swollen capacitors. Some of the linux dis I use have been moving away from maintaining a 32 bit version, which affe the use of some of my older pc's unless I abandon them at a certain relea level and shut off updates.


    I agree regarding size and power consumption.

    Reliability of old hardware does not seem to be an issue here. Swollen capacitors are a problem but I have only suffered fireworks from 15 years old hardware once. I use a lot of 15 years old hardware. A LOT.

    Linux distributions dropping support for 32 bit are just an excuse to migrate those machines to OpenBSD or a distribution that still supports 32 bit. I don't blame mainstream distributions for dropping 32 bitr support but there are just many operating systems and distributions left to use instead.

    Debian still supports 32 bit, as do a few others I think, like Q4OS. I've g 25+ year old hardware that still works just fine.

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!

    SBC's and smaller form factor systems sporting more than 4gb of ram are becoming more common. The move from a 32 bit OS will be required to move
    above that limit.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Sat Dec 25 16:17:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nightfox to Nig on Sat Dec 25 2021 01:21 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nig to Denn on Sat Dec 25 2021 04:04 am

    Only decent renewable energy is Hydro Electric, Wind mills need wind,
    Solar Panels need sun.

    that's not the case in africa, the su
    the sun is always there, and the wind is in the middle of the ocean. it

    The sun is always there? Even at night?

    Nightfox

    That is why solar panels are packaged with battery banks. It is not power wasted if you have a storage plan.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Sat Dec 25 19:35:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nightfox to Nig on Sat Dec 25 2021 01:21 pm

    Only decent renewable energy is Hydro Electric, Wind mills need wind,
    Solar Panels need sun.

    that's not the case in africa, the su
    the sun is always there, and the wind is in the middle of the ocean.
    its

    The sun is always there? Even at night?

    Lol, good comeback :)

    ... THE LARGE PRINT GIVETH, the small print taketh away.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Sun Dec 26 03:34:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sat Dec 25 2021 08:34 pm

    At the time I stored them, they were still good for something. I'm a hoarder and have trouble getting rid of stuff that is operational. The problem is old doesn't always mean obsolete. Practical, well that's another story!

    donate it.
    then you get rid of your junk and it has a purpose.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Sun Dec 26 06:18:00 2021
    It is not a wise policy to keep all your eggs in one basket. Coal and gas are not going away, but can be made nearly twice as efficient without taking away from the profit margin. Wind and solar are better off as additions to the power strategy rather than replacements. We have several smaller hydro plants in my area that were made over 100 years ago, and they are quite capable of putting out more power, but are throttled down to regulate the lake and river levels. The nail in the coffin for nuclear was when Yucca Mountain was axed. The local nuclear plants had to re-purpose land reserved for newer reactors to be used for onsite cask storage now. Even after the plants are decomissioned, a new home for the spent rods is not guaranteed.

    It's like everyone wants to buy into all or nothing deals without looking at how it impacts people in the worst ways.

    I don't disagree. Seems like most of the vocal members of the wind and
    solar crowd think that we can use it as a primary source and get rid of
    coal and gas and our other current primary sources. I do not see how that
    is practical at this time (if ever).


    * SLMR 2.1a * Tell me, is something eluding you, Sunshine?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sun Dec 26 12:32:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Dec 25 2021 06:58 pm

    that's not the case in africa, the su
    the sun is always there, and the wind is in the middle of the
    ocean. its

    The sun is always there? Even at night?

    yes, captain autistic, that is what he meant.

    Do you seriously think I thought he meant that literally?

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tue Dec 28 03:26:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Dec 26 2021 05:32 pm

    that's not the case in africa, the su
    the sun is always there, and the wind is in the middle of the
    ocean. its

    The sun is always there? Even at night?

    yes, captain autistic, that is what he meant.

    Do you seriously think I thought he meant that literally?


    I don't know what you think or why you post these things.
    you dont seem to catch on to a lot of things.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thu Dec 30 17:23:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Dec 26 2021 08:34 am

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sat Dec 25 2021 08:34 pm

    At the time I stored them, they were still good for something. I'm a hoarder and have trouble getting rid of stuff that is operational. The problem is old doesn't always mean obsolete. Practical, well that's anot story!

    donate it.
    then you get rid of your junk and it has a purpose.

    Very true. Best way to appeal to a hoarder is tell them to give someone else
    a chance to enjoy your treasures

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Fri Dec 31 04:22:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Dec 30 2021 10:23 pm

    donate it.
    then you get rid of your junk and it has a purpose.

    Very true. Best way to appeal to a hoarder is tell them to give someone else
    a chance to enjoy your treasures

    it's hard to turn around a true hoarder. it's probably impossible. they feel like they might need the objects later on. the truth is, they are probably right. it's just not worth having plastic spoons and boxes of pasta and old tvs,etc around.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Fri Dec 31 10:14:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Mon Dec 13 2021 11:00 am

    Also, toilet paper was low in stock everywhere, not just Wal Mart. Last year, many stores in my area were low or out of toilet paper. I'm not sure why people were horading so much toilet paper though - Was everyone worried about suddenly getting diarrhea?

    There are a lot of theories about the TP shortages. Here's one rational explanation:
    https://americanvision.org/22711/the-economics-of-toilet-paper/
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Rush quote #24:
    The more that things change, the more they stay the same
    Norco, CA WX: 58.6øF, 72.0% humidity, 5 mph W wind, 0.06 inches rain/24hrs
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Fri Dec 31 12:38:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Dec 31 2021 03:14 pm


    There are a lot of theories about the TP shortages. Here's one rational explanation:
    https://americanvision.org/22711/the-economics-of-toilet-paper/
    --
    digital man (rob)



    also interesting that they bring up the dairy farmer thing.

    "Milk packaging for homes is different. Retooling to meet a different demand takes time. What could the dairy farmers do with the extra milk? All they could do was dump it since their normal delivery channels had changed. As you know, there is an expiration date for milk."

    they could freeze it. you can freeze milk.

    but they dont need to, because cows make tons of milk.

    the act of dumping milk and all that waste really gets people's hairs standing on end.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Fri Dec 31 11:43:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Dec 13 2021 01:32 pm

    we have a bidet though, so we dont use toilet paper. TP is gross.

    How do you dry your ass after using the bidet?
    --
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    Rush quote #11:
    Struck between the eyes by the big time world, walking uneasy streets
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Fri Dec 31 11:45:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Dec 13 2021 12:35 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Dec 13 2021 01:32 pm

    we have a bidet though, so we dont use toilet paper. TP is gross.

    I've never had an opportunity to use a toilet with a bidet. I've been curious to try one.

    Been using them for years. As long as you don't need heated water, dryer, music playing, etc., they can be purchased and installed for cheap:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JG2DETM
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #23:
    Karl: I reckon I'm gonna have to get used to looking at pretty people.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Fri Dec 31 18:04:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Moondog on Fri Dec 31 2021 09:22 am

    donate it.
    then you get rid of your junk and it has a purpose.

    Very true. Best way to appeal to a hoarder is tell them to give
    someone else
    a chance to enjoy your treasures

    it's hard to turn around a true hoarder. it's probably impossible. they feel like they might need the objects later on. the truth is, they are pro

    My step father was the worst hoarder Ive ever seen, He had 4 properties full of usless crap that he would never sell or use.
    After he died all the metal got scraped then all the other crap got junked.


    ... People will buy anything that's one to a customer.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Fri Dec 31 18:08:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Dec 31 2021 05:38 pm

    There are a lot of theories about the TP shortages. Here's one
    rational explanation:
    https://americanvision.org/22711/the-economics-of-toilet-paper/
    --
    digital man (rob)



    also interesting that they bring up the dairy farmer thing.

    "Milk packaging for homes is different. Retooling to meet a different demand takes time. What could the dairy farmers do with the extra milk? All they could do was dump it since their normal delivery channels had changed. As you know, there is an expiration date for milk."

    Excess Milk gets freeze dried and turned into powder, from there you can rehydrate it or cook with it.

    ... More Oxymoron's: Free Love, Jumbo Shrimp, Freezer Burn.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Digital Man on Fri Dec 31 18:11:00 2021
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Dec 31 2021 04:43 pm

    we have a bidet though, so we dont use toilet paper. TP is gross.

    How do you dry your ass after using the bidet?

    I think you stick it out the window, or blow dry it?
    Just Kidding - I wondered that myself - Maybe Mro can enlighten us?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sat Jan 1 02:49:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Dec 31 2021 04:43 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Dec 13 2021 01:32 pm

    we have a bidet though, so we dont use toilet paper. TP is gross.

    How do you dry your ass after using the bidet?

    i use a towel or let it air dry. my whole ass doesnt get covered in water.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Sat Jan 1 02:56:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Fri Dec 31 2021 11:04 pm

    it's hard to turn around a true hoarder. it's probably impossible. they feel like they might need the objects later on. the truth is, they are pro

    My step father was the worst hoarder Ive ever seen, He had 4 properties full of usless crap that he would never sell or use.
    After he died all the metal got scraped then all the other crap got junked.



    i knew a woman who would not throw out anything. not even garbage. she would get kicked out after 4 months and find another place. the only way she would lose things is by someone else tossing it against her will.

    imagine how much garbage piles up in 4+ months.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Sat Jan 1 02:58:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Fri Dec 31 2021 11:08 pm

    All they could do was dump it since their normal delivery channels had changed. As you know, there is an expiration date for milk."

    Excess Milk gets freeze dried and turned into powder, from there you can rehydrate it or cook with it.

    i'm not sure if that's what they do about it. about every 4 years or so you will see a story about milk farmers having to dump milk.

    it's usually bullshit. there's been several lawsuits against dairy farmers for driving up the price of milk, also.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENN on Sat Jan 1 05:20:00 2022
    Excess Milk gets freeze dried and turned into powder, from there you can rehydrate it or cook with it.

    Powdered milk is a prepper item, so there is a market for it.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sat Jan 1 07:59:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Jan 01 2022 07:49 am

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Dec 31 2021 04:43 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Dec 13 2021 01:32 pm

    we have a bidet though, so we dont use toilet paper. TP is gross.

    How do you dry your ass after using the bidet?

    i use a towel or let it air dry. my whole ass doesnt get covered in water.

    I hope you don't wipe your face or hands with that same towel. *that* would be gross.
    --
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    So who's your chief, little injun? - Hank
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  • From Mike Dippel@VERT/HOBBYBBS to Digital Man on Sat Jan 1 17:08:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Dec 31 2021 04:43 pm

    Mine came with a hot air blower. For real.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mike Dippel on Sat Jan 1 17:10:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Mike Dippel to Digital Man on Sat Jan 01 2022 10:08 pm

    Mine came with a hot air blower. For real.

    Yup, seen/used those, but they require AC power which isn't always practical. --
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sat Jan 1 19:00:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Jan 01 2022 12:59 pm


    i use a towel or let it air dry. my whole ass doesnt get covered in water.

    I hope you don't wipe your face or hands with that same towel. *that* would be gross.

    my butt is totally clean, so whats the difference.

    the important thing is to close the toilet seat lid when flushing. most people dont do that and it really spread germs several feet.

    i dont know what bidet you have, but the ones i have dont really soak your entire ass. i dont dry my hands after washing them and my hands are dry in seconds, too.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Sun Jan 2 09:00:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Jan 02 2022 12:00 am

    i use a towel or let it air dry. my whole ass doesnt get covered in
    water.

    I hope you don't wipe your face or hands with that same towel. *that*
    would be gross.

    my butt is totally clean, so whats the difference.

    Who would wipe their ass on a towel then wipe their face or use it after a shower, I'll stick to the TP, bidet sounds like a fecal germ spreader.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Sun Jan 2 10:53:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Sun Jan 02 2022 02:00 pm

    I hope you don't wipe your face or hands with that same towel. *that*
    would be gross.

    my butt is totally clean, so whats the difference.

    Who would wipe their ass on a towel then wipe their face or use it after a shower, I'll stick to the TP, bidet sounds like a fecal germ spreader.


    i usually just air dry it.
    when you use a bidet your entire ass isnt soaking in water. nor do you need to dry off.


    my ass is probably cleaner than your face.
    all my past girlfriends would actually comment on how clean i am downstairs, also.

    toilet paper is fucking disgusting.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Denn on Sun Jan 2 11:05:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Sun Jan 02 2022 02:00 pm

    Who would wipe their ass on a towel then wipe their face or use it after a shower, I'll stick to the TP, bidet sounds like a fecal germ spreader.

    I wouldn't wipe my hands/face with the same thing I use to wipe my butt.. I've been curious to try a bidet though. I've been curious if a bidet can clean faster and better than using toilet paper.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sun Jan 2 11:06:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Jan 02 2022 12:00 am

    I hope you don't wipe your face or hands with that same towel. *that*
    would be gross.

    my butt is totally clean, so whats the difference.

    How do you know your butt is totally clean? Do you use soap on your butt? If your bidet is just rinsing your butt with water and no soap, then I don't think I'd consider it totally clean..

    Nightfox

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Sun Jan 2 20:05:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Denn on Sun Jan 02 2022 03:53 pm

    I hope you don't wipe your face or hands with that same towel.
    *that* would be gross.

    my butt is totally clean, so whats the difference.

    Who would wipe their ass on a towel then wipe their face or use it
    after a shower, I'll stick to the TP, bidet sounds like a fecal germ
    spreader.


    i usually just air dry it.
    when you use a bidet your entire ass isnt soaking in water. nor do you need to dry off.

    I still think I'll use the charmin.

    my ass is probably cleaner than your face.
    all my past girlfriends would actually comment on how clean i am downstairs, also.

    I doubt that lol on both points.




    toilet paper is fucking disgusting.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Sun Jan 2 20:08:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Sun Jan 02 2022 04:05 pm

    Who would wipe their ass on a towel then wipe their face or use it
    after a shower, I'll stick to the TP, bidet sounds like a fecal germ
    spreader.

    I wouldn't wipe my hands/face with the same thing I use to wipe my butt.. I've been curious to try a bidet though. I've been curious if a bidet can clean faster and better than using toilet paper.

    Same, if I dried my butt with a towel that towel gets washed, would the bidet be warm or cold water I wonder?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Mon Jan 3 04:00:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Sun Jan 02 2022 04:05 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Sun Jan 02 2022 02:00 pm

    Who would wipe their ass on a towel then wipe their face or use it after a shower, I'll stick to the TP, bidet sounds like a fecal germ spreader.

    I wouldn't wipe my hands/face with the same thing I use to wipe my butt.. I've been curious to try a bidet though. I've been curious if a bidet can clean faster and better than using toilet paper.

    Nightfox

    yeah you might get your butt dirty from your face germs.

    yes, a bidet gets you cleaner, faster. there's no doubt about that.
    once you get one you wont want to use a regular toilet and toilet paper.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Mon Jan 3 04:02:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Jan 02 2022 04:06 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Jan 02 2022 12:00 am

    I hope you don't wipe your face or hands with that same towel. *that*
    would be gross.

    my butt is totally clean, so whats the difference.

    How do you know your butt is totally clean? Do you use soap on your

    butt?
    If your bidet is just rinsing your butt with water and no soap, then I don't think I'd consider it totally clean..

    soap just helps things get cleaner by helping dirt slide off.

    i can powerwash my car with water and get it clean. with a bidet you are power washing your ass.

    how do i know my butt is totally clean? because there's no shit on it.
    and i don't smell like shit. you dont really get clean enough with toilet paper. all you are doing is wiping it around until there's a minimal amount detectable by you.


    if you guys want pics or videos i can open an only fans.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Mon Jan 3 04:04:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Mon Jan 03 2022 01:05 am

    i usually just air dry it.
    when you use a bidet your entire ass isnt soaking in water. nor do you need to dry off.

    I still think I'll use the charmin.


    okay, keep having a dirty poopy ass!

    my ass is probably cleaner than your face.
    all my past girlfriends would actually comment on how clean i am downstairs, also.

    I doubt that lol on both points.


    they had a tv show that tested this, and for some people, their face was dirtier than their ass.

    and yes i have got compliments on my cleanliness.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Mon Jan 3 04:05:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to Nightfox on Mon Jan 03 2022 01:08 am

    butt.. I've been curious to try a bidet though. I've been curious if a bidet can clean faster and better than using toilet paper.

    Same, if I dried my butt with a towel that towel gets washed, would the bidet be warm or cold water I wonder?


    I don't know why you guys keep focusing on using a towel.

    you dont really NEED to dry. it's not like there's a firehose blasting at your entire ass and you are soaked.

    you stand up and your butt is pretty much dry in seconds.
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to MRO on Mon Jan 3 06:24:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 03 2022 09:02 am

    I hope you don't wipe your face or hands with that same towel.
    *that* would be gross.

    my butt is totally clean, so whats the difference.

    How do you know your butt is totally clean? Do you use soap on your

    butt?
    If your bidet is just rinsing your butt with water and no soap, then I
    don't think I'd consider it totally clean..

    soap just helps things get cleaner by helping dirt slide off.

    i can powerwash my car with water and get it clean. with a bidet you are power washing your ass.

    how do i know my butt is totally clean? because there's no shit on it.
    and i don't smell like shit. you dont really get clean enough with toilet paper. all you are doing is wiping it around until there's a minimal amount detectable by you.

    There are also flushable wipes that would probably be better than TP or a Bidet.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Denn on Mon Jan 3 09:24:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Denn to MRO on Mon Jan 03 2022 11:24 am

    and i don't smell like shit. you dont really get clean enough with toilet paper. all you are doing is wiping it around until there's a minimal amount detectable by you.

    There are also flushable wipes that would probably be better than TP or a Bidet.


    never use those things and flush them down the toilet.
    they all can cause some type of problem.

    and they dont beat having your ass powerwashed.
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  • From Greenlfc@VERT/BEERS20 to MRO on Tue Jan 4 01:04:00 2022
    On 03 Jan 2022, MRO said the following...

    you dont really NEED to dry. it's not like there's a firehose blasting
    at your entire ass and you are soaked.


    Personally, I'm having a hard time figuring out how I'd get clean *without* a power wash / firehose blasting crap everywhere. The only bidet I've ever seen in use had a fairly slow flow, like a drinking fountain.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Greenlfc on Tue Jan 4 08:34:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Greenlfc to MRO on Tue Jan 04 2022 06:04 am

    On 03 Jan 2022, MRO said the following...

    you dont really NEED to dry. it's not like there's a firehose blasting at your entire ass and you are soaked.


    Personally, I'm having a hard time figuring out how I'd get clean *without* a power wash / firehose blasting crap everywhere. The only bidet I've ever seen in use had a fairly slow flow, like a drinking fountain.

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    maybe that's an older one or they didn't install it properly.
    it's a pretty strong blast.

    i recommend getting one. you will atleast cut down on the toilet paper.
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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MSRDBBS to Greenlfc on Wed Jan 5 07:27:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Greenlfc to MRO on Tue Jan 04 2022 06:04 am

    Personally, I'm having a hard time figuring out how I'd get clean *without* power wash / firehose blasting crap everywhere. The only bidet I've ever se in use had a fairly slow flow, like a drinking fountain.

    I'm glad you said "like a drinking fountain" and not "a drinking fountain".

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  • From Greenlfc@VERT/BEERS20 to Boraxman on Wed Jan 5 00:39:00 2022
    On 05 Jan 2022, Boraxman said the following...

    I'm glad you said "like a drinking fountain" and not "a drinking fountain".


    I almost said "like a water fountain", but since a bidet basically *is* a fountain of water I didn't want my meaning confused :).

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Boraxman on Wed Jan 5 03:42:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: Boraxman to Greenlfc on Wed Jan 05 2022 12:27 pm

    Re: Re: covid
    By: Greenlfc to MRO on Tue Jan 04 2022 06:04 am

    Personally, I'm having a hard time figuring out how I'd get clean *without* power wash / firehose blasting crap everywhere. The only bidet I've ever se in use had a fairly slow flow, like a drinking fountain.

    I'm glad you said "like a drinking fountain" and not "a drinking fountain".

    hey, you never know. some people never got it during the toilet training.

    i've seen grown men piss on the floors instead of using urinals and i've seen people shit in urinals.

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  • From MATTHEW MUNSON@VERT/IUTOPIA to DENN on Sat Jan 15 13:30:00 2022
    There are also flushable wipes that would probably be better than TP or a Bidet.
    Yes, Dollar Shave Club sells some of them.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sat Jan 15 15:58:00 2022
    Re: Re: covid
    By: MATTHEW MUNSON to DENN on Sat Jan 15 2022 06:30 pm

    There are also flushable wipes that would probably be better than TP or a Bidet.
    Yes, Dollar Shave Club sells some of them.

    you should never use flushable wipes. NONE of them are good for being flushed down drains.
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