• Buy one, get one

    From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to All on Fri Sep 18 20:46:00 2020
    Buy a Rock Island Armory FS 1911 .45 ACP pistol for $450 (normal price $500), get a Rock Island Armory Traditional .410 bore single shot shotgun ($120 value) for free. While the RIA FS 1911 is not a high-end pistol, it seems to be fairly well reviewed and it looks well worth the mony in my opinion. The shotgun isn't anything special, a break action single shot piece with a synthetic stock, but it could be just what I need in order to take care of some of the smaller vermin out in the fields around my shop. Anyway, it's not often that you get one of these deals, so I thought I'd let y'all know about it..


    Oh yeah... I'll bet you think I forgot to tell you where this is happening...

    Well, it's at Murdoch's Ranch and Home Supply stores, until Sept 22. No coupons, also no rainchecks and no substitutions. http://www.murdochs.com

    Enjoy!

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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to Weatherman on Sat Sep 19 08:14:00 2020
    Oh yeah... I'll bet you think I forgot to tell you where this is happening... http://www.murdochs.com

    Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nebraska and Wyoming... that's a BOGO that
    makes sense.

    Here in NY you'd be jailed for even suggesting a sale like this!

    Hatton


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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to Hatton on Sat Sep 19 21:56:00 2020
    Re: Re: Buy one, get one
    By: Hatton to Weatherman on Sat Sep 19 2020 12:14 pm

    Oh yeah... I'll bet you think I forgot to tell you where this is happening... http://www.murdochs.com

    Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nebraska and Wyoming... that's a BOGO that
    makes sense.

    Here in NY you'd be jailed for even suggesting a sale like this!

    Hatton


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    Heh heh.... and now you have touched upon one of the top five reasons why I am no longer a resident of New York State. Have no idea where in NY you are, but no matter where in the state you live, even in the most conservative parts of NYS, I have more freedom with which to exercise my 2A rights than could be imagined in New York....

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Weatherman on Sun Sep 20 18:35:00 2020
    Re: Buy one, get one
    By: Weatherman to All on Sat Sep 19 2020 12:46 am

    Buy a Rock Island Armory FS 1911 .45 ACP pistol for $450 (normal price $500) get a Rock Island Armory Traditional .410 bore single shot shotgun ($120 val for free. While the RIA FS 1911 is not a high-end pistol, it seems to be fairly well reviewed and it looks well worth the mony in my opinion. The shotgun isn't anything special, a break action single shot piece with a synthetic stock, but it could be just what I need in order to take care of s of the smaller vermin out in the fields around my shop. Anyway, it's not of that you get one of these deals, so I thought I'd let y'all know about it..


    Oh yeah... I'll bet you think I forgot to tell you where this is happening.

    Well, it's at Murdoch's Ranch and Home Supply stores, until Sept 22. No coupons, also no rainchecks and no substitutions. http://www.murdochs.com

    Enjoy!

    Regards,
    -==*>Weatherman<*==-

    The Armscor/ Rock Island 1911's have a good reputation. I heard from a
    couple competition guys they are great platforms for building into
    inexpensive match guns.

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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to Moondog on Sun Sep 20 19:58:00 2020
    Moondog wrote to Weatherman <=-


    The Armscor/ Rock Island 1911's have a good reputation. I heard from a couple competition guys they are great platforms for building into inexpensive match guns.

    Yeah, I checked the reviews and about the only thing anybody had against them was that the frame was cast and not forged. Then the reviewers went on to say that cast was probably "good enough" and didn't seem to affect the quality of the arm at all. I'm quite satisfied with mine. I like the Parkerized finish. I have one other "plain Jane" 1911, that being a Norinco 1911A1 that I bought from a friend who was trying to sell off her step-father's gun collection after he died. Other than that, I have a couple of Auto Ordnance Trump commemoratives. Not really interested in building a match gun out of any of them, mainly for personal carry or plinking in the back yard - the commemoratives are going into a shadow box for display purposes...

    Have a grand day!

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Weatherman on Mon Sep 21 11:42:00 2020
    Re: Re: Buy one, get one
    By: Weatherman to Moondog on Sun Sep 20 2020 11:58 pm

    Moondog wrote to Weatherman <=-


    The Armscor/ Rock Island 1911's have a good reputation. I heard from a couple competition guys they are great platforms for building into inexpensive match guns.

    Yeah, I checked the reviews and about the only thing anybody had against the was that the frame was cast and not forged. Then the reviewers went on to s that cast was probably "good enough" and didn't seem to affect the quality o the arm at all. I'm quite satisfied with mine. I like the Parkerized finis I have one other "plain Jane" 1911, that being a Norinco 1911A1 that I bough from a friend who was trying to sell off her step-father's gun collection af he died. Other than that, I have a couple of Auto Ordnance Trump commemoratives. Not really interested in building a match gun out of any of them, mainly for personal carry or plinking in the back yard - the commemoratives are going into a shadow box for display purposes...

    Have a grand day!

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    A former co-worker from 25 years ago had a Norinco 1911. I'm guessing they were built to an older set of blueprints, maybe even from WII lend /lease licenses. He said either the ejector or extractor was an older design, and
    he swapped it out right away. At a later date he picked up a Para Ordnance
    P13 frame, then move the rest of the parts over to it. This was the first
    time I handled a 1911 with the beefier grip design to accept a double stack magazine. IIRC the "13" stood for 12 in the mag and one in the pipe, or
    maybe it was 13 in the mag. The P15 mags would work, but they stuck out pas tthe grip. Para made a P16, except it was chambered in .40 and didn't
    require gorilla hands to hold it. Since then I have fired STI's "2011" style framed pistols, and they didn't feel as awkward as the older Para's.

    I think I've mentioned it on several occasions, but after getting the opportun ity to shoot custom or higher end handguns and rifles, the "affordable" base models become less appealing. A few years ago i ran into an STI distributor
    at the range, and he let me fire the STI Costa Comp model. I fell in love wit h it, until I looked online and seen it's MSRP was $4500. I hear the Taran Tactical STI's are pretty sweet for a third of that price, however my
    concern is that John Wick 3 pushed their price up a bit.

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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to Moondog on Wed Sep 23 05:29:00 2020

    I think I've mentioned it on several occasions, but after getting the opportun ity to shoot custom or higher end handguns and rifles, the "affordable" base models become less appealing. A few years ago i ran into an STI distributor
    at the range, and he let me fire the STI Costa Comp model. I fell in love wit h it, until I looked online and seen it's MSRP was $4500. I hear the Taran Tactical STI's are pretty sweet for a third of that price, however my concern is that John Wick 3 pushed their price up a bit.

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    I know what you mean. I remember after "The Terminator" came out in '84, you couldn't touch a phased plasma rifle in any wattage range for any price. Took forever for them to come down to a reasonable price again....
    Regards,
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Weatherman on Wed Sep 23 17:28:00 2020
    Re: Re: Buy one, get one
    By: Weatherman to Moondog on Wed Sep 23 2020 09:29 am


    I think I've mentioned it on several occasions, but after getting the opportun ity to shoot custom or higher end handguns and rifles, the "affordable" base models become less appealing. A few years ago i ran in an STI distributor
    at the range, and he let me fire the STI Costa Comp model. I fell in lov wit h it, until I looked online and seen it's MSRP was $4500. I hear the Taran Tactical STI's are pretty sweet for a third of that price, however concern is that John Wick 3 pushed their price up a bit.

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    I know what you mean. I remember after "The Terminator" came out in '84, yo couldn't touch a phased plasma rifle in any wattage range for any price. To forever for them to come down to a reasonable price again....
    Regards,
    -==*>Weatherman<*==-

    lol. I wonder if the same could be said about the AR-7 rifle showing up in three James Bond films (From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, and On Her
    Majesty's Secret Service?)

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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to Moondog on Sat Sep 26 05:09:00 2020
    >
    I know what you mean. I remember after "The Terminator" came out in
    '84,
    yo couldn't touch a phased plasma rifle in any wattage range for any price. To forever for them to come down to a reasonable price again....
    Regards,
    -==*>Weatherman<*==-

    lol. I wonder if the same could be said about the AR-7 rifle showing up in three James Bond films (From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, and On Her Majesty's Secret Service?)

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    Well, if people were regularly shooting helicopters out of the sky with AR7's then I'd imagine they'd have been flying off the shelves. As it is, I doubt they've ever been worth more than a couple of hundred dollars. I know they retail for more than that, but to me, I wouldn't pay more than two bills.
    I've got two of them, in fact, one is a Charter Arms, the other is a more current Henry model. Paid $100 for the Charter, and $150 for the Henry. I find them to be very good backpacking, boating, camper guns, but I also have a Sub-2000 in 9mm (although I really would have preferred .40 SW) and I find
    that the more I use that, the more I appreciate it for the roles listed above. Of course, I could just keep one on the boat, keep one in the camper and use one when hiking. Aside from that, I usually have a pistol or revolver with me as well so it's not as if I really NEED a small-caliber or pistol caliber carbine with me....

    Regards,
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Weatherman on Sat Sep 26 17:08:00 2020
    Re: Re: Buy one, get one
    By: Weatherman to Moondog on Sat Sep 26 2020 09:09 am

    >
    I know what you mean. I remember after "The Terminator" came out in
    '84,
    yo couldn't touch a phased plasma rifle in any wattage range for any price. To forever for them to come down to a reasonable price again..
    Regards,
    -==*>Weatherman<*==-

    lol. I wonder if the same could be said about the AR-7 rifle showing up three James Bond films (From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, and On Her Majesty's Secret Service?)

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    Well, if people were regularly shooting helicopters out of the sky with AR7' then I'd imagine they'd have been flying off the shelves. As it is, I doubt they've ever been worth more than a couple of hundred dollars. I know they retail for more than that, but to me, I wouldn't pay more than two bills. I've got two of them, in fact, one is a Charter Arms, the other is a more current Henry model. Paid $100 for the Charter, and $150 for the Henry. I find them to be very good backpacking, boating, camper guns, but I also have Sub-2000 in 9mm (although I really would have preferred .40 SW) and I find that the more I use that, the more I appreciate it for the roles listed abov Of course, I could just keep one on the boat, keep one in the camper and use one when hiking. Aside from that, I usually have a pistol or revolver with as well so it's not as if I really NEED a small-caliber or pistol caliber carbine with me....

    Regards,
    -==*>Weatherman<*==-

    I also own two AR-7's. One is a Survival Arms model from the mid 1990's and the other was an early 2000's Henry with the 5/8" dovetail for rimfire
    scopes. The Survival Arms model is a tack driver for simple gun, and the
    Henry needs a larger variety of ammo through it to find a sweet spot load.
    One nice thing about it is it eats the crappy Remington Thunderbolt ammo that makes my Marlins and Rugers puke. Downside they don't like the bulk box Federal with truncated bullets. Henry's lever guns are way more solid
    designs with great finish on the wood and metal.

    I have a Rossi gallery gun, a copy of a Winchester 62 (I think.) That's a fun little pump, like you'd imagine at the old style carnivals shooting shorts
    and cb caps. I haven't tried shorts since the price for them is more than
    for .22 LR. They lengthened the loading elevator thing to make LR easier to load, so it might not work well with shorts. The wood looks like a dark Brazi llian rosewood, however the sanding and finish job is horrible.


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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to Moondog on Sun Sep 27 21:53:00 2020
    Moondog wrote to Weatherman <=-


    Well, if people were regularly shooting helicopters out of the sky with AR7' then I'd imagine they'd have been flying off the shelves. As it is, I doubt they've ever been worth more than a couple of hundred dollars. I know they retail for more than that, but to me, I wouldn't pay more than two bills. I've got two of them, in fact, one is a Charter Arms, the other is a more current Henry model. Paid $100 for the Charter, and $150 for the Henry. I find them to be very good backpacking, boating, camper guns, but I also have Sub-2000 in 9mm (although I really would have preferred .40 SW) and I find that the more I use that, the more I appreciate it for the roles listed abov Of course, I could just keep one on the boat, keep one in the camper and use one when hiking. Aside from that, I usually have a pistol or revolver with as well so it's not as if I really NEED a small-caliber or pistol caliber carbine with me....

    Regards,
    -==*>Weatherman<*==-

    I also own two AR-7's. One is a Survival Arms model from the mid
    1990's and the other was an early 2000's Henry with the 5/8" dovetail
    for rimfire scopes. The Survival Arms model is a tack driver for
    simple gun, and the Henry needs a larger variety of ammo through it to find a sweet spot load. One nice thing about it is it eats the crappy Remington Thunderbolt ammo that makes my Marlins and Rugers puke.
    Downside they don't like the bulk box Federal with truncated bullets. Henry's lever guns are way more solid designs with great finish on the wood and metal.

    You're looking at the difference between a $250 (retail) breakdown into a water-resistant, floating stock, bare-bones survival rifle and a well-crafted $320 and up rifle intended to bring back the nostalgia and romance of a long-gone era. We happen to have no fewer than six Henry tribute .22 rifles (at an average of $800 per) and a .44 Special Mare's Leg. My wife has a soft spot in her heart for those Henry tributes, and as long as I don't throw a fit when she buys them, she doesn't throw much of a fit when I buy something that I like.

    I have a Rossi gallery gun, a copy of a Winchester 62 (I think.) That's
    a fun little pump, like you'd imagine at the old style carnivals
    shooting shorts and cb caps. I haven't tried shorts since the price
    for them is more than for .22 LR. They lengthened the loading elevator thing to make LR easier to load, so it might not work well with shorts.
    The wood looks like a dark Brazi llian rosewood, however the sanding
    and finish job is horrible.

    I remember shooting those old pump action .22's at an amusement park in my home town. Have no idea what they might have been, Remington, Winchester, and others made them. Was the very first gun I shot, and had a blast doing it. As I remember it, they had tubes of .22 shorts sitting there at the arcade, and they just slid the rounds into the magazine from the tube. Hell, I can't even remember what it cost to shoot, maybe a buck and a half, if that. I must have been all of 11 or 12 years old. I'll not speak about the quality of Taurus/Rossi arms. I happen to like their metallurgy and own a few examples of their work. While they may not be able to create a passable replica of a Winchester pump, I happen to think their more modern designes are quite acceptable...

    Have a grand day....


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Weatherman on Mon Sep 28 20:54:00 2020
    Re: Re: Buy one, get one
    By: Weatherman to Moondog on Mon Sep 28 2020 01:53 am

    Moondog wrote to Weatherman <=-


    Well, if people were regularly shooting helicopters out of the sky with A then I'd imagine they'd have been flying off the shelves. As it is, I do they've ever been worth more than a couple of hundred dollars. I know th retail for more than that, but to me, I wouldn't pay more than two bills. I've got two of them, in fact, one is a Charter Arms, the other is a more current Henry model. Paid $100 for the Charter, and $150 for the Henry. find them to be very good backpacking, boating, camper guns, but I also h Sub-2000 in 9mm (although I really would have preferred .40 SW) and I fin that the more I use that, the more I appreciate it for the roles listed a Of course, I could just keep one on the boat, keep one in the camper and one when hiking. Aside from that, I usually have a pistol or revolver wi as well so it's not as if I really NEED a small-caliber or pistol caliber carbine with me....

    Regards,
    -==*>Weatherman<*==-

    I also own two AR-7's. One is a Survival Arms model from the mid 1990's and the other was an early 2000's Henry with the 5/8" dovetail for rimfire scopes. The Survival Arms model is a tack driver for simple gun, and the Henry needs a larger variety of ammo through it to find a sweet spot load. One nice thing about it is it eats the crappy Remington Thunderbolt ammo that makes my Marlins and Rugers puke. Downside they don't like the bulk box Federal with truncated bullets. Henry's lever guns are way more solid designs with great finish on the wood and metal.

    You're looking at the difference between a $250 (retail) breakdown into a water-resistant, floating stock, bare-bones survival rifle and a well-crafte $320 and up rifle intended to bring back the nostalgia and romance of a long-gone era. We happen to have no fewer than six Henry tribute .22 rifles (at an average of $800 per) and a .44 Special Mare's Leg. My wife has a sof spot in her heart for those Henry tributes, and as long as I don't throw a f when she buys them, she doesn't throw much of a fit when I buy something tha like.

    I have a Rossi gallery gun, a copy of a Winchester 62 (I think.) That's a fun little pump, like you'd imagine at the old style carnivals shooting shorts and cb caps. I haven't tried shorts since the price for them is more than for .22 LR. They lengthened the loading elevator thing to make LR easier to load, so it might not work well with shorts.
    The wood looks like a dark Brazi llian rosewood, however the sanding and finish job is horrible.

    I remember shooting those old pump action .22's at an amusement park in my h town. Have no idea what they might have been, Remington, Winchester, and others made them. Was the very first gun I shot, and had a blast doing it. I remember it, they had tubes of .22 shorts sitting there at the arcade, and they just slid the rounds into the magazine from the tube. Hell, I can't ev remember what it cost to shoot, maybe a buck and a half, if that. I must ha been all of 11 or 12 years old. I'll not speak about the quality of Taurus/Rossi arms. I happen to like their metallurgy and own a few examples their work. While they may not be able to create a passable replica of a Winchester pump, I happen to think their more modern designes are quite acceptable...

    Have a grand day....


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    Pardon the pun, but Taurus/ Rossi products are hit and miss depending on when they were made. One side of their plant is running cnc machines, while the other half is running tooling that Samuel Colt would've sworn it came from
    the shop Eli Whitney II had made for him. My brother has a Taurus PT 100 - a Beretta clone in .40 that runs fine. I have a Rossi matched pair single shto with a .22lr and 20 gauge barrel that locks up great, then the gallery gun
    with crude wood hardware. I have been told to avoid their revolvers, and ran into one the range purchased that had a 15 pound trigger pull, and came back un-repaired several times from Taurus, then a friend had a .22lr/ .22wmr with swappable cylinders that was sent back to the company to have it's sights replaced twice because the point of impact was way to the left and way low.

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  • From Vlk-451@VERT/HAVENS to Moondog on Wed Oct 28 09:52:00 2020
    Re: Re: Buy one, get one
    By: Moondog to Weatherman on Tue Sep 29 2020 12:54 am

    Pardon the pun, but Taurus/ Rossi products are hit and miss depending on when they were made. One side of their plant is running cnc machines, while the shop Eli Whitney II had made for him. My brother has a Taurus PT 100 - a Beretta clone in .40 that runs fine. I have a Rossi matched pair single shto with a .22lr and 20 gauge barrel that locks up great

    I can attest, the Tarus G2C is a great carry, with a lot of quality of life features at a killer price. I wana get a G3 sometime soon.
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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to Vlk-451 on Thu Oct 29 20:23:00 2020
    Vlk-451 wrote to Moondog <=-

    Pardon the pun, but Taurus/ Rossi products are hit and miss depending on when they were made. One side of their plant is running cnc machines, while the shop Eli Whitney II had made for him. My brother has a Taurus PT 100 - a Beretta clone in .40 that runs fine. I have a Rossi matched pair single shto with a .22lr and 20 gauge barrel that locks up great

    I can attest, the Tarus G2C is a great carry, with a lot of quality of life features at a killer price. I wana get a G3 sometime soon.
    = Crystal Palace, Orbitsville =

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    I routinely carry a PT-145 Pro when it's impractical to carry my full size SW 645. I like the compact size of the Millenium Pro and for a double-stack .45 the grip is not overly wide and easy to hold. I've several other Taurus/Rossi firearms, including a Model 68 revolver that also is carried when concealment is a priority.

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