What are all of you watching?
Andeddu wrote to All <=-
I am presently watching The Book of Boba Fett on Disney+ which is
What are all of you watching?
Digital Man wrote to Andeddu <=-
What are all of you watching?
I'm enjoying 1883.
What are all of you watching?
Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really
liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the
Started on Peacemaker this past weekend, far better than it has any
right to be, but my expectations were incredibly low.
What are all of you watching?
On 1/28/22 06:06, Andeddu wrote:
What are all of you watching?
Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really
liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the
transition very well in the earlier episodes... If they'd done more of
the flashbacks in chronological order, with "5 years earlier" or
something similar when he came out of the sarlac pitt (sp) it would have been better. The editing isn't as good as it could/should be.
Started on Peacemaker this past weekend, far better than it has any
right to be, but my expectations were incredibly low.
I also watch Rookie, Blue Bloods, Superman & Lois and a handful of others. --
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i'm not going to watch it because disney canceled that muscle chick.
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By: Tracker1 to Andeddu on Mon Jan 31 2022 04:11 pm
On 1/28/22 06:06, Andeddu wrote:
What are all of you watching?
Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the
transition very well in the earlier episodes... If they'd done more of the flashbacks in chronological order, with "5 years earlier" or something similar when he came out of the sarlac pitt (sp) it would have been better. The editing isn't as good as it could/should be.
Started on Peacemaker this past weekend, far better than it has any
right to be, but my expectations were incredibly low.
I also watch Rookie, Blue Bloods, Superman & Lois and a handful of others --
i'm not going to watch it because disney canceled that muscle chick.
Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really
liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the
transition very well in the earlier episodes... If they'd done more of
the flashbacks in chronological order, with "5 years earlier" or
something similar when he came out of the sarlac pitt (sp) it would have been better. The editing isn't as good as it could/should be.
Right-on. So bummed what the series turned into, the myth of Fett was
much more interesting than this stuff. But yeah, last week's EP --
basically S3 EP1 of The Mandolorian -- was pretty good!
All forms of Star Trek and Archive 81.
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By: fang-castro to Andeddu on Mon Jan 31 2022 07:02 pm
All forms of Star Trek and Archive 81.
Is Archive 81 worth watching? The premise seems interesting.
others --
i'm not going to watch it because disney canceled that muscle chick.
Gina is back. Favreau has enough pull to bring her back.
I've only watched the 1st two episodes so far because of my schedule, but it was great. Nice and creepy! Haven't watched anything as creepy in a while. I really like psychological thrillers and this fits the bill.
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By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Feb 01 2022 10:29 am
others --
i'm not going to watch it because disney canceled that muscle chick.
Gina is back. Favreau has enough pull to bring her back.
did she get a public apology? i didnt see it.
i just see 'according to youtuber' shit.
did she get a public apology? i didnt see it.
i just see 'according to youtuber' shit.
I wasn't a fan of her acting and preferred the episodes without her in them.
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By: Tracker1 to Andeddu on Mon Jan 31 2022 04:11 pm
Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the
transition very well in the earlier episodes... If they'd done more of the flashbacks in chronological order, with "5 years earlier" or something similar when he came out of the sarlac pitt (sp) it would have been better. The editing isn't as good as it could/should be.
I feel the same way about Boba Fett's character. In the original movies he w quiet, mysterious and clearly morally bankrupt. Disney have retconned this version of Fett and turned him into a naive do-gooder who is soft on his enemies. I am still enjoying the series though as the spin-offs are way bett than the main-line movies which are just embarrassing. Episode 5 is, ironically, the best so far for me also which is hilarious because Fett does feature in it for even a second. Some of the decisions in the earlier episod are strange too, such as the augmented Vespa gang who couldn't have looked m ridiculous and out of place in a Star Wars production. There are only 2 more episodes remaining so I reckon it'll reach a rushed conclusion.
TBoBF overall lacks the quality writing of The Mandalorian.
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By: aLPHA to Tracker1 on Tue Feb 01 2022 02:20 am
Right-on. So bummed what the series turned into, the myth of Fett was much more interesting than this stuff. But yeah, last week's EP -- basically S3 EP1 of The Mandolorian -- was pretty good!
He is a literal clone of Jango who was absolutely fucking ruthless... despit being the Daimio, Fennec Shand clearly wears the trousers in their relationship.
Andeddu wrote to Tracker1 <=-
second. Some of the decisions in the earlier episodes are strange too, such as the augmented Vespa gang who couldn't have looked more
ridiculous and out of place in a Star Wars production.
I attribute the change in Boba's character to be the result of facing
death,
then being "reborn" as part of a tribal social unit. In the
flashbacks as a
child, he would see Jango flying off, then later on filling his shoes
(and
costume) living a life on anger and brutality to others. He realizes
his
life before was empty, and learned from the Sand people he could be
happy in
a society with mutual earned trust and respect.
Moondog wrote to Andeddu <=-
I attribute the change in Boba's character to be the result of facing death, then being "reborn" as part of a tribal social unit. In the flashbacks as a child, he would see Jango flying off, then later on filling his shoes (and costume) living a life on anger and brutality to others. He realizes his life before was empty, and learned from the
Sand people he could be happy in a society with mutual earned trust and respect.
I attribute the change in Boba's character to be the result of facing death, then being "reborn" as part of a tribal social unit. In the flashbacks as a child, he would see Jango flying off, then later on filling his shoes (and costume) living a life on anger and brutality to others. He realizes his life before was empty, and learned from the Sand people he could be happy in a society with mutual earned trust and respect.
He knows how to delegate responsibility. Fennec is his enforcer, and once he is established, she will be the face to face person handling his affairs.
Kitted-up vespa speeders on a rim world that's obviously at the tail end of the supply runs, based on the overall look and feel of Tatooine.
I would like to see Luke's speeder appear in the background somewhere.
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By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Feb 02 2022 08:26 pm
did she get a public apology? i didnt see it.
i just see 'according to youtuber' shit.
I wasn't a fan of her acting and preferred the episodes without her in th
if you think about it , there's not too many good actors in tv shows anymore
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Andeddu wrote to Tracker1 <=-
second. Some of the decisions in the earlier episodes are strange too, such as the augmented Vespa gang who couldn't have looked more ridiculous and out of place in a Star Wars production.
Kitted-up vespa speeders on a rim world that's obviously at the tail end of the supply runs, based on the overall look and feel of Tatooine.
I would like to see Luke's speeder appear in the background somewhere.
... Voice your suspicions
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By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Feb 02 2022 08:26 pm
did she get a public apology? i didnt see it.
i just see 'according to youtuber' shit.
I wasn't a fan of her acting and preferred the episodes without her in th
if you think about it , there's not too many good actors in tv shows anymore period.
Moondog wrote to Andeddu <=-
I attribute the change in Boba's character to be the result of facing death, then being "reborn" as part of a tribal social unit. In the flashbacks as a child, he would see Jango flying off, then later on filling his shoes (and costume) living a life on anger and brutality to others. He realizes his life before was empty, and learned from the Sand people he could be happy in a society with mutual earned trust and respect.
Is Boba Fett still in the show? :)
I watched this week's episode and thought that despite my fears, Disney has become a good custodian of the Star Wars Universe. That one scene (spoilers!) with Mando talking to one person, and the two off in the distance was pretty amazing - seeing those people coming together on screen in one place.
... Emphasize the flawsSeeing Ahsoka Tano and Luke Skywalker together was awesome. Especially when she said he sounded like his father. Everything Luke taught Grogu was repetition of what Yoda said, except he flipped the meaning of size not mattering implying the size of the person versus the size of an object.
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By: Moondog to Andeddu on Wed Feb 02 2022 11:30 pm
I attribute the change in Boba's character to be the result of facing dea then being "reborn" as part of a tribal social unit. In the flashbacks a child, he would see Jango flying off, then later on filling his shoes (an costume) living a life on anger and brutality to others. He realizes his life before was empty, and learned from the Sand people he could be happy a society with mutual earned trust and respect.
I just think they should have expanded upon the tribe a little more as once Fett became an honorary Tuskan himself, the entire tribe got immediately massacred. Some of the earlier episodes were only around 35 minutes long so minor extension could have added to the exposition. I reckon my complaint is that Mando behaves more like Fett than Fett does. He is quiet and stoic wher Fett appears to talk far too much. It isn't a massive criticism on my part a like the series and I am glad they produced it.
I still haven't watched episode 6 so I'll hopefully get the chance to see it tonight.
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By: Moondog to Andeddu on Wed Feb 02 2022 11:35 pm
He knows how to delegate responsibility. Fennec is his enforcer, and onc he is established, she will be the face to face person handling his affai
Seems like in combat, she's far more proficient than him also. I honestly th he has been neutered a little bit. I guess some of the mystery has been remo with all his dialogue and the way he walks around a lot with his helmet off. is not quite as cool as I thought he was in Episodes 5-6.
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By: poindexter FORTRAN to Andeddu on Wed Feb 02 2022 06:50 am
Kitted-up vespa speeders on a rim world that's obviously at the tail end the supply runs, based on the overall look and feel of Tatooine.
I would like to see Luke's speeder appear in the background somewhere.
The entire American Grafitti vibe I got from those Vespas was so jarring. Th gang felt like they were shoe-horned in also... I could have done without th and their weird outfits.
i'm not going to watch it because disney canceled that muscle chick.
Gina is back. Favreau has enough pull to bring her back.
i'm not going to watch it because disney canceled that muscle chick.
Gina is back. Favreau has enough pull to bring her back.
Excellent news!
I'm sure you'll enjoy it.It's crammed full of story, characters, and easter eggs for those who have followed Starw Wars on and off the screen. Personally, I have seen only the films and the animated series such as Clone Wars, Rebels, and Bad Batch. In the Return of the Jedi there is an older Rebel soldier in the team that takes the shield generator, and I find it humorous people have been calling him Rex, due to his white hair and beard resembling that of clone trooper Rex in Rebels.
He's no longer the employee. He's the boss. In order to do his job, he put on his game face. As a leader trying to gain the trust of those who pay tribute to him, his game face is his face. People fear the armor. They respect the man.
It's part of the play on words that they're called Mods. They are not only cybernetically augmented, they also resemble the Mod subculture from the UK in the 1960's. Their intent is to look like a bunch of pretty dandies, but they're not afraid to get their hands dirty.
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By: Otto Reverse to Moondog on Fri Feb 04 2022 02:03 pm
i'm not going to watch it because disney canceled that muscle chi
Gina is back. Favreau has enough pull to bring her back.
Excellent news!
it's not true.
Re: Re: What's Everyone Watch
By: Moondog to Andeddu on Fri Feb 04 2022 08:54 am
I'm sure you'll enjoy it.It's crammed full of story, characters, and east eggs for those who have followed Starw Wars on and off the screen. Personally, I have seen only the films and the animated series such as Cl Wars, Rebels, and Bad Batch. In the Return of the Jedi there is an older Rebel soldier in the team that takes the shield generator, and I find it humorous people have been calling him Rex, due to his white hair and bear resembling that of clone trooper Rex in Rebels.
I still haven't had the chance to eatch episode 6 of TBOBF but I should be a to see it later tonight. I have seen the first season of The Clone Wars. I liked it but haven't returned for season two as yet. If you haven't watched animated series Resistance you should give it a try... I consider it to be severely underrated. Bad Batch was brilliant and I will probably watch it al again sometime. I was more into the novels and the computer games back when was younger.
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By: Moondog to Andeddu on Fri Feb 04 2022 08:59 am
He's no longer the employee. He's the boss. In order to do his job, he on his game face. As a leader trying to gain the trust of those who pay tribute to him, his game face is his face. People fear the armor. They respect the man.
I guess that's fair. I just found it a little jarring to get used to Boba's personality as I, and many other fans, thought he was going to be different more meneacing... the type to rule with an iron fist.
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By: Moondog to Andeddu on Fri Feb 04 2022 09:04 am
It's part of the play on words that they're called Mods. They are not on cybernetically augmented, they also resemble the Mod subculture from the in the 1960's. Their intent is to look like a bunch of pretty dandies, b they're not afraid to get their hands dirty.
They're appear to be a totally new sub-culture in the Star Wars universe. I have never read anything about these Mods anywhere else and have not seen anything resembling them in previous movies, even in the places where you'd expect to see them, such as Coruscant. Everything appears to be a shade of beige in Tatooine so I found it bizarre to see such a colourful group of peo in the Outer Rim. I haven't warmed to them at all and would have preferred t see Fett deal with the mayor's assistant himself by using his own methods, namely his jetback and rocket launcher.
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By: MRO to Otto Reverse on Sat Feb 05 2022 01:54 am
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By: Otto Reverse to Moondog on Fri Feb 04 2022 02:03 pm
i'm not going to watch it because disney canceled that muscle chi
Gina is back. Favreau has enough pull to bring her back.
Excellent news!
it's not true.
We'll have to wait
Andeddu wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The entire American Grafitti vibe I got from those Vespas was so
jarring. The gang felt like they were shoe-horned in also... I could
have done without them and their weird outfits.
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The way it appears Tattooine is growing into a major link in the spice distribution chain. I imagine any group interested in getting a piece
of the action leaving their comfy cities in favor of going where the
money is.
I saw Resistance. I'm concerned that now Disney has their premium channel, their other channels are going to go stale from lack of new content.
It's been 5 years since ROTJ. I thnk he was content living among the Sand People and experienced the feeling of family for the first time in his life. Let's see if he can lead his own tribe under the same principals.
it depends on how the show does and how to new show does.
in an interview jon said disney wants her to play another character. which is kinda weird.
It reminded me of the William Gibson/Neal Stephenson cyberpunk worlds, or if one of them had written "Hackers". Again, doesn't fit into the rim world trope.
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The way it appears Tattooine is growing into a major link in the spice distribution chain. I imagine any group interested in getting a piece of the action leaving their comfy cities in favor of going where the money is.
Although they mentioned spice in the original trilogy, is bringing it to the forefront now a nice homage to Frank Herbert's Dune?
A lot of people implied that George Lucas was influenced, shall we say, and make comparisons to Arrakis/Paul/Muad'Dib and Tatooine/Luke, throwing an orange spice into the mix makes it even more evident.
They both ultimately owe a lot to Lawrence of Arabia.
... Think of the radioSpice was mentioned in the original trilogy, as in forcing people to work in the spice mines of Kessel. That's why Han was in such trouble for dumping a shipment of spice to avoid arrest.
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By: Moondog to Andeddu on Sat Feb 05 2022 08:32 pm
It's been 5 years since ROTJ. I thnk he was content living among the San People and experienced the feeling of family for the first time in his li Let's see if he can lead his own tribe under the same principals.
Yeah, I enjoyed seeing the Sand People tribe. I knew most of them were't complete savages after playing Knight of the Old Republic and learning about their culture and how they were oppressed by the galaxy-spanning mining organisation Czerka Corporation.
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The way it appears Tattooine is growing into a major link in the spice distribution chain. I imagine any group interested in getting a piece of the action leaving their comfy cities in favor of going where the money is.
Although they mentioned spice in the original trilogy, is bringing it to the forefront now a nice homage to Frank Herbert's Dune?
A lot of people implied that George Lucas was influenced, shall we say, and make comparisons to Arrakis/Paul/Muad'Dib and Tatooine/Luke, throwing an orange spice into the mix makes it even more evident.
They both ultimately owe a lot to Lawrence of Arabia.
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By: poindexter FORTRAN to Andeddu on Fri Feb 04 2022 06:53 am
It reminded me of the William Gibson/Neal Stephenson cyberpunk worlds, or one of them had written "Hackers". Again, doesn't fit into the rim world trope.
They don't appear to be natives nor do they seem to have a legitimate place Tatooine other than being a gang of ruffians. It's a bit of a strange design choice to include them, but nevermind... they are canon now.
Personally, something I hate from the new Disney guys is that they are turning everybody into an oppressed faction.
In Captain Marvel, they turned the fucking Skrulls into an oppressed group. You know, the Skrulls? The genocidal extraterrestrial maniacs? Well, thanks to Disney they are now another oppressed group.
It is starting to feel like they are trying to turn everything into My Little Pony, in which the bad guys can be made repent and be good again after a song and a group hug. Except that suits MLP but not a space opera.
Disney have been injecting their brand of progressive politics into Star Wars since they acquired the franchise. The spin-off movies and TV shows aren't as bad as the main movies. This is the reason episodes 7-9 are not going to age well.
I remember how hopeful people were after "Rogue One" was released.
I have not seen 8 and 9, but I feel like 7 won't age well because it really felt more like a repackaging/retelling of "A New Hope" with different characters than it did a new chapter of the saga.
Rogue One was actually good compared to Episode 7 which, as you said, is a rehash of ANH. Episodes 8 and 9 retcon a lot of the established physics and lore of the universe and often falls into the realm of complete incomprehensible farce. Avoid ever viewing them if you can. You can sense a hatred for the much loved original trilogy in the Disney movies as they killed off and ridiculed those characters one by one. Kylo Ren summed it up perfectly when he said "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
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By: Andeddu to Dumas Walker on Thu Feb 10 2022 19:02:24
Rogue One was actually good compared to Episode 7 which, as you said, is rehash of ANH. Episodes 8 and 9 retcon a lot of the established physics a lore of the universe and often falls into the realm of complete incomprehensible farce. Avoid ever viewing them if you can. You can sense hatred for the much loved original trilogy in the Disney movies as they killed off and ridiculed those characters one by one. Kylo Ren summed it perfectly when he said "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
I don't get very involved in my analysis for the Star Wars movies, but I am
do enjoy the new stories from Disney, but for me everything outside of 1-6
Rogue One was actually good compared to Episode 7 which, as you said, is a rehash of ANH. Episodes 8 and 9 retcon a lot of the established physics and lore of the universe and often falls into the realm of complete incomprehensible farce. Avoid ever viewing them if you can. You can sense a hatred for the much loved original trilogy in the Disney movies as they killed
off and ridiculed those characters one by one. Kylo Ren summed it up perfectly
when he said "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
Boraxman wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Dune Messiah explores this more, which is the follow up to Dune. In
some ways, to really understand Dune, you need to read Dune Messiah.
I don't get very involved in my analysis for the Star Wars movies, but I am a lifelong fan as far as episode 1-6 are concerned. They just seem to have a quality and consistency that the later episodes, spinoffs, and whatnot do not. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the new stories from Disney, but for me everything outside of 1-6 are distinctly different.
Makes you wonder why they wanted it if they were just going to ruin the original storyline? I know the answer... $$$ ... but still.
Something similar happened when Chris Chinball got hold of Dr. Who. It got a little more "woke" than it had been, which I was ok with, but then they retconned a lot of the established history of the Doctor. Fans in various forums on the internet have even suggested that the next show runner, who was the original showrunner for the revived series, might want to just have the previous Doctor wake as if from a dream in order to erase the whole Chinball era and reset the canon back to where it was before he mucked it all up.
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By: Dumas Walker to ANDEDDU on Fri Feb 11 2022 03:30 pm
Makes you wonder why they wanted it if they were just going to ruin the original storyline? I know the answer... $$$ ... but still.
Something similar happened when Chris Chinball got hold of Dr. Who. It g a little more "woke" than it had been, which I was ok with, but then they retconned a lot of the established history of the Doctor. Fans in variou forums on the internet have even suggested that the next show runner, who was the original showrunner for the revived series, might want to just ha the previous Doctor wake as if from a dream in order to erase the whole Chinball era and reset the canon back to where it was before he mucked it all up.
It's about injecting a new belief system into our culture. They did the same with Ghost Busters, Terminator, James Bond, Men in Black ,etc... all the wok movies ended up bombing on release and then the directors/writers and produc blamed the fans. I am aware of the Dr Who retcon on his origins and it's appalling. They should remove the last couple of seasons and make them "just dream" to being back 90% of the fans who have ditched the show.
devoid of any Star Wars magic and feel like nothing more than cash-ins. I do like The Mandolorian and TBOBF though along with some of the animated stuff.
Rogue One was actually good compared to Episode 7 which, as you said, is a rehash of ANH. Episodes 8 and 9 retcon a lot of the established physics an lore of the universe and often falls into the realm of complete incomprehensible farce. Avoid ever viewing them if you can. You can sense hatred for the much loved original trilogy in the Disney movies as they ki off and ridiculed those characters one by one. Kylo Ren summed it up perfe when he said "Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
Makes you wonder why they wanted it if they were just going to ruin the original storyline? I know the answer... $$$ ... but still.
Something similar happened when Chris Chinball got hold of Dr. Who. It got a little more "woke" than it had been, which I was ok with, but then they retconned a lot of the established history of the Doctor. Fans in various forums on the internet have even suggested that the next show runner, who was the original showrunner for the revived series, might want to just have the previous Doctor wake as if from a dream in order to erase the whole Chinball era and reset the canon back to where it was before he mucked it all up.
* SLMR 2.1a * Usually a man with flowers has deflowering in mind...
This is a new religion attempting to rewrite pop-cultural heritage (and all culture and history) to fit the new belief system. This is Year Zero stuff.
The Book of Bobba Fett is a good example of Disney's treatment of the non-movie Star Wars cannon. IIRC, LucasFilms treated the "official"
novels, tv shows (i.e. Star Wars Clone Wars), etc., as cannon. When Disney took over, they announced that only the 6 films were cannon. I am not sure they even include the Clone Wars animated movie.
Bobba did escape the pit in those books, but I am not so certain that Disney didn't readjust Bib Fortuna's fate in order to tell their story of Fett.
I would have to see it to be sure and, as I don't have Disney+, I guess I won't be. :)
SPOILER:
Did Fortuna become a brain walker in TBOBF?
devoid of any Star Wars magic and feel like nothing more than cash-ins. I like The Mandolorian and TBOBF though along with some of the animated stuf
The Book of Bobba Fett is a good example of Disney's treatment of the non-movie Star Wars cannon. IIRC, LucasFilms treated the "official"
novels, tv shows (i.e. Star Wars Clone Wars), etc., as cannon. When Disney took over, they announced that only the 6 films were cannon. I am not sure they even include the Clone Wars animated movie.
Bobba did escape the pit in those books, but I am not so certain that Disney didn't readjust Bib Fortuna's fate in order to tell their story of Fett.
I would have to see it to be sure and, as I don't have Disney+, I guess I won't be. :)
SPOILER:
Did Fortuna become a brain walker in TBOBF?
* SLMR 2.1a * A momentary lapse of reason that binds a life to a life..
The opportunity that rose with Rogue One and eps 7-9 was they had an opportunity to draw in millions of Chinese viewers into the Star Wars universe
Take into account the earlier movies didn't get any of much exposure in the Chinese cinema industry. The answer was to add a more diverse cast and some token well known Chinese actors that the audience can identify with to make the films worth distributing in China.
After watching Episode IX, I am not even sure Disney considered Episode VI canon!
I would be surprised if Disney gave consideration to anything in TCW as it would appear most of the writers have only the most rudimentary understanding of the universe and characters. There is talk of Bib Fortuna being the former daimyo after Jabba the Hutt... but that's all we hear of it.
The last episode of TBOBF was a massive let down. I would say that only 3/7 episodes were good with the rest being extremely mediocre.
What are all of you watching?
Currently on season 2 of Ozark on Netflix. Outstanding.
Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-
What are all of you watching?
Currently on season 2 of Ozark on Netflix. Outstanding.
I kinda binged the seven episodes of Ozark S4 P1 the last three
nights. Amazing. A great continuation of a convoluted twisty
story.
SPOILER:
Did Fortuna become a brain walker in TBOBF?
I doubt it. Fortuna was abad guy, but not a villain. He got his quick and sudden death he deserved.
Yes, it's been very enjoyable, with some unexpected twists. I'm now finished to the same point with it as you are.
Any idea when S4 P2 is due out?
Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-
Yes, it's been very enjoyable, with some unexpected twists. I'm now finished to the same point with it as you are.
Any idea when S4 P2 is due out?
Not really. Even Jason Bateman (as one of the Executive
Producers) ..just states "Sometime very soon."
If he wants the show to qualify as a contender for one of the
tv/film awards, it has to be released on or before May
sometime.
The meetup between Javi and Ruth ought to be pretty intense.
After watching Episode IX, I am not even sure Disney considered Episode VI canon!
Maybe not! That really would not surprise me. People thought that JJ Abrams ruined the prequels... I don't think they were ready for what Disney might have had in mind.
I had heard that, in TBOBF, Bobba Fett supposedly dethrowned Bib Fortuna before taking over Jabba's palace. If that is not the case, then maybe
they did retain some of the litterary canon. In one of the books, it is
Disney have retconned that as, if you recall The Mandalorian S2 finale, Boba Fett shoots him in the face whilst he is on the throne and usurps him as the Daimyo.
Disney have retconned that as, if you recall The Mandalorian S2 finale, Boba Fett shoots him in the face whilst he is on the throne and usurps him as the Daimyo.
Ahh, so it happened in that show. I unfortunately don't have Disney+ so I have missed a lot of their retconning. Maybe that is a good thing. :)
I have no doubt that it's a good thing. If you are able to stay away from anything that is Disney Star Wars you will have a much higher opinion of the
whole franchise. The old expanded universe is much superior to the new canon.
Ahh, so it happened in that show. I unfortunately don't have Disney+ so I have missed a lot of their retconning. Maybe that is a good thing. :)
I have no doubt that it's a good thing. If you are able to stay away from anything that is Disney Star Wars you will have a much higher opinion of the whole franchise. The old expanded universe is much superior to the new canon.
The Mandalorian, created under Disney rule, is excellent though. Mainly as it doesn't try to just do Star Wars all over again.
i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.
Re: TBOBF
By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Feb 21 2022 06:17 pm
i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.
Are you referring to the prequel trilogy? I thought it was better than the OT in terms of writing. Lucas was good because he used the Star Wars license sparingly compared to Disney who are just churning out show after show to see what sticks. They've ultimately devalued the franchise.
Re: TBOBF
By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Feb 21 2022 06:17 pm
i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.
Are you referring to the prequel trilogy? I thought it was better than the O in terms of writing. Lucas was good because he used the Star Wars license sparingly compared to Disney who are just churning out show after show to se what sticks. They've ultimately devalued the franchise.
i'm talking about everything he did starting with fucking with the movies in the 90s to how they are now. at THAT time the original saga was great. the dialog sucked but it wasnt bad thanks to studio intervention and his wife helping out. that's why she got a ton of money in the divorce.
when lucas had full control, he got real weird and messed up everything. I don't like any of the newer starwars movies. i dont even like the disney movies. they are super super fast and superficial.
lucas used his starwars stuff sparingly because he was a shut in all those years and decided to build ILM. he also was making a lot of money each year just riding it out.
it's fitting that he sold to disney because he was like walt disney.
but the real reason he sold was because he thought the world was going to end in 2012. dude's a delusional nut.
The prequel had more means and better production, but I would not label the writting as clearly superior myself.
The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.
The original series was more serious and conveyed this idea that the Dark Side had real teeth. The prequel was more cartoonish, and a bit like Fast and Furious in Space at times. Nothing wrong with that, but I think there is a qualitative difference in the style of both trilogies and that the prequel tried to have more flash at the expense of less athmosphere.
I quite like the remastered versions of the OT because they were carried out tastefully. Continuity issues such as Jabba the Hut being a human being in Episode IV were also fixed.
The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.
I quite like the remastered versions of the OT because they were carried out tastefully. Continuity issues such as Jabba the Hut being a human being in Episode IV were also fixed.
Hahaha, I never heard about Lucas being into astrology and numerology... I guess it's just a Hollywood thing.
The prequel had more means and better production, but I would not label the writting as clearly superior myself.
The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.
The original series was more serious and conveyed this idea that the Dark Side had real teeth. The prequel was more cartoonish, and a bit like Fast and Furious in Space at times. Nothing wrong with that, but I think there is a qualitative difference in the style of both trilogies and that the prequel tried to have more flash at the expense of less athmosphere.
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did that happen?
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed to be human. If it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far away, what are the chances they'd be human? But there's a scene in Empire Strikes Back where C-3PO refers to Luke Skylwalker (I think) as a human.. I wondered what the story was about how humans came from that galaxy to our galaxy.
Nightfox
i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. big deal.
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did
that happen?
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in the cinema.
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed
to be human. If it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far away,
what are the chances they'd be human? But there's a scene in Empire
Earth, to my knowledge, is not a place that's noted in the galaxy maps in the Star Wars universe... I've always thought of it as an alternate universe or something rather than one parallel to ours.
Re: TBOBF
By: Arelor to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 2022 01:42 pm
The prequel had more means and better production, but I would not label the writting as clearly superior myself.
The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.
The original series was more serious and conveyed this idea that the Da Side had real teeth. The prequel was more cartoonish, and a bit like Fa and Furious in Space at times. Nothing wrong with that, but I think the is a qualitative difference in the style of both trilogies and that the prequel tried to have more flash at the expense of less athmosphere.
I had the same thoughts. The explanation and reton with the midichlorians s hich actually seemed to start with Return of the Jedi in the original trilog
When the Star Wars 1-6 set was first released on blu-ray (around 2011 or 201 t last I checked, they were around $25-$30 apiece, which seemed a little ste
Nightfox
Re: TBOBF
By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Feb 23 2022 05:29 pm
I quite like the remastered versions of the OT because they were carrie out tastefully. Continuity issues such as Jabba the Hut being a human being in Episode IV were also fixed.
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did that happ
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed to be h lker (I think) as a human.. I wondered what the story was about how humans
Nightfox
Re: TBOBF
By: Arelor to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 2022 01:42 pm
The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems wei to me.
yeah that was strange.
and jarjar was bad.
it was just overthought and had no soul.
the old one had soul, even though it was full of holes and issues.
i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. big
When ANH was filmed, there is a scene that is filmed where Jabba is waiting o utside of Han's ship asking for his money. This was filmed with a human actor playing Jabba as originally planned. This was cut from the original release, then put back in the digitally enhanced re-releases, except the CGI version of Jabba is overlayed on the actor. They also had to edit when Ha n walks behind Jabba so it appears he steps on his tail rather than walk through the spot his tail should be.
Re: TBOBF
By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Feb 23 2022 08:28 pm
i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. b deal.
Episodes 7-9 are all special effects with nothing else to offer.
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in t cinema.
I had first seen the original movie long ago on TV when I was young, so it's been a while. I don't remember seeing that. Interesting.
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in the cinema.
Re: Star Wars
By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 2022 04:57 pm
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did
that happen?
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in the cinema.
I had first seen the original movie long ago on TV when I was young, so it's been a while. I don't remember seeing that. Interesting.
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed
to be human. If it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far away,
what are the chances they'd be human? But there's a scene in Empire
Star Wars wouldn't need to take place in a parallel universe (I've never actually thought of that). Star Wars takes place in a different galaxy, so
i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space.
big
midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.
More information here:
https://dirkdeklein.net/2018/02/17/that-time-jabba-the-hut-was-jabba-the-hum an/
--- MOONDOG wrote ---
midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring
the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.
Re: Star Wars
By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 2022 01:03 pm
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did that happen?
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed to b human. If it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far away, what are chances they'd be human? But there's a scene in Empire Strikes Back wher C-3PO refers to Luke Skylwalker (I think) as a human.. I wondered what t story was about how humans came from that galaxy to our galaxy.
Nightfox
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in the cinema.
Earth, to my knowledge, is not a place that's noted in the galaxy maps in th Star Wars universe... I've always thought of it as an alternate universe or something rather than one parallel to ours.
Re: Star Wars
By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 2022 04:57 pm
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did
that happen?
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in t cinema.
I had first seen the original movie long ago on TV when I was young, so it's
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed
to be human. If it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far away,
what are the chances they'd be human? But there's a scene in Empire
Earth, to my knowledge, is not a place that's noted in the galaxy maps the Star Wars universe... I've always thought of it as an alternate universe or something rather than one parallel to ours.
Star Wars wouldn't need to take place in a parallel universe (I've never act at perhaps a group of humans in the Star Wars universe had possibly traveled
Nightfox
Re: Star Wars
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 2022 12:12 pm
When ANH was filmed, there is a scene that is filmed where Jabba is waiting o utside of Han's ship asking for his money. This was filmed wi a human actor playing Jabba as originally planned. This was cut from th original release, then put back in the digitally enhanced re-releases, except the CGI version of Jabba is overlayed on the actor. They also ha to edit when Ha n walks behind Jabba so it appears he steps on his tail rather than walk through the spot his tail should be.
Ah, I remember hearing about that, and I remember seeing that scene with the
Nightfox
Re: TBOBF
By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 12:17 pm
i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. big
midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring th force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruine the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flo through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.
he could have made it into some brain advancement instead of bugs in the blo
--- MOONDOG wrote ---
midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring
the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms th are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.
The mistake is explaining it at all beyond what Yoda said in Empire.
I don't know why kids today are so hung up on everything being explained...
I forgot what it is called, but there is a phenomenon where people whave seen the outtake material at a leter time, but recall seeing it in the theatres.
Star Wars wouldn't need to take place in a parallel universe (I've never actually thought of that). Star Wars takes place in a different galaxy, so naturally, Earth wouldn't be on the galaxy maps. If they really are meant to be human, I was thinking that perhaps a group of humans in the Star Wars universe had possibly traveled to Earth and settled here.
Ah, I remember hearing about that, and I remember seeing that scene with the CGI Jabba when the edited versions were released. Somehow I thought someone was saying there was a released version that didn't have the CGI Jabba, showing Jabba as a human.
The Luke-Leia-Solo chemistry is just better than the ones the main characters in the prequel get (which is not saying much anyway).
Characters and character development just work better in the originals even if the plot is simplistic adventure IMO.
i think the deal is they had a human actor to play jabba but it was cut out. you may have seen another movie with this deleted scene removed.
or it's a mandella effect thing.
they cgi'd in a little jaba in the 90s which i found shitty.
The mistake is explaining it at all beyond what Yoda said in Empire.
I don't know why kids today are so hung up on everything being explained...
I forgot what it is called, but there is a phenomenon where people whave seen the outtake material at a leter time, but recall seeing it in the theatres. Since it was cut and abandoned, there was no possible way for it to have been released. A similar experiment was conducted where a group of people sat
down as individuals and watched a staged even that was intended to look like security camera footage. There were several smaller story arcs going on with people in the parking lot, but the main event was an incident beween two drive rs fighting over a parking spot. The video is the constant or control, and the variable was ringer in the bunch that was seeding fake inofrmation or changing arounf vehicle colors or orders of the events. when interviewed alone, each person was asked what they saw, and some of them claimed they saw or noticed the smaller details the ringer introduced tot he story. When
given a chance to view the video again, they would claim the video was edited.
Andeddu wrote to Nightfox <=-
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a
man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in
the cinema.
Earth, to my knowledge, is not a place that's noted in the galaxy maps
in the Star Wars universe... I've always thought of it as an alternate universe or something rather than one parallel to ours.
Re: Star Wars
By: Moondog to Andeddu on Fri Feb 25 2022 07:41 pm
I forgot what it is called, but there is a phenomenon where people whave seen the outtake material at a leter time, but recall seeing it in the theatres.
https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-the-mandela-effect-4589394
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digital man (rob)
--- ANDEDDU wrote ---
Re: TBOBF
By: the doctor to MOONDOG on Fri Feb 25 2022 12:03
pm
They almost retconned it in the Disney trilogy after speculation that Rey was a nobody with no special lineage. This was prior to Abrams deciding at the 11th hour that she'd be the grand-daughter of Emperor Palaptine.
Gina is back. Favreau has enough pull to bring her back.
I attribute the change in Boba's character to be the result of facing death, then being "reborn" as part of a tribal social unit. In the flashbacks as a child, he would see Jango flying off, then later on filling his shoes (and costume) living a life on anger and brutality to others. He realizes his life before was empty, and learned from the Sand people he could be happy in a society with mutual earned trust and respect.
i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.
Are you referring to the prequel trilogy? I thought it was better than
the OT in terms of writing. Lucas was good because he used the Star
Wars license sparingly compared to Disney who are just churning out
show after show to see what sticks. They've ultimately devalued the franchise.
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in the cinema.
On 2/1/22 08:29, Moondog wrote:
Gina is back. Favreau has enough pull to bring her back.
Will believe it when I actually see it on screen. Sorry for delayed
reply, not on here nearly enough.
I think that Clone Wars adds a lot of context to the prequels that add
value to the series.. if you watch the first 6 in "machete" order, it
flows a lot better. 7-9, may as well skip, the story telling is just
bad... the visuals are cool, but it's just not Star Wars... Clone Wars
and Rebels were far better... Resistance I just didn't care for, and I
think they dropped the ball on The Bad Batch by infantalizing the kid
too much, she was formidable in the first episode, then they
figuratively neutered her. She should have just remained capable through
the series, possibly even becoming a team leader, still flawed and inexperienced (not like they did with wesley crusher in stng).
I think that Clone Wars adds a lot of context to the prequels that add value to the series.. if you watch the first 6 in "machete" order, it flows a lot better. 7-9, may as well skip, the story telling is just bad... the visuals are cool, but it's just not Star Wars... Clone Wars
and Rebels were far better... Resistance I just didn't care for, and I think they dropped the ball on The Bad Batch by infantalizing the kid
too much, she was formidable in the first episode, then they
figuratively neutered her. She should have just remained capable through the series, possibly even becoming a team leader, still flawed and inexperienced (not like they did with wesley crusher in stng).
The last time I binged Star Wars, I watched the first three, the Clone Wars movie, and then the original three plus #7. Sort of like the first three are not on par with the original 3, #7 was not on par with any of the first 6 or Clone Wars.
It did not motivate me enough to watch 8 or 9, although I did watch Solo.
I still do want to see Rogue One.
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I still do want to see Rogue One.
Rogue One works well as a stand alone story in the SW universe as well as a pre-cursor to ANH
The last time I binged Star Wars, I watched the first three, the Clone Wars movie, and then the original three plus #7. Sort of like the first three
are not on par with the original 3, #7 was not on par with any of the first
6 or Clone Wars.
It did not motivate me enough to watch 8 or 9, although I did watch Solo.
I still do want to see Rogue One.
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