Hello Denn!

** On Friday 15.10.21 - 08:09, Denn wrote to plt:

Even if you get a shot and wear a mask you can 'STILL' get
covid. [...] and now some are saying distance 10 feet or
more, and wear a N95 mask or better.

People are wearing the mask around here (they vary from
bandanas, scarves, simple paper ones, to some that look like
the N95s), but what I've noticed is that people are not doing
the distancing as much anymore. Even the people on the news
shows now sit closer together, reporters interviewing people
nolonger use long boom microphones and just stand right next to
the people they want to talk to. Tv shows with audiences fill
every seat, no one wears masks, and show guests hug or shake
hands with the host (eg Tonight Show with Stephen Colbert).

So it seems to me that the verdict of what to do is still all
over the map and some people have decided that having the covid
jab is good enough.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Ogg to Denn on Fri Oct 15 2021 08:10 pm

Even if you get a shot and wear a mask you can 'STILL' get
covid. [...] and now some are saying distance 10 feet or
more, and wear a N95 mask or better.

People are wearing the mask around here (they vary from
bandanas, scarves, simple paper ones, to some that look like
the N95s), but what I've noticed is that people are not doing
the distancing as much anymore. Even the people on the news
shows now sit closer together, reporters interviewing people
nolonger use long boom microphones and just stand right next to
the people they want to talk to. Tv shows with audiences fill
every seat, no one wears masks, and show guests hug or shake
hands with the host (eg Tonight Show with Stephen Colbert).

Most people here in Utah don't even bother with masks, there are a few, at my company many people are refusing the shots and those people have to mask up all day, I have my shots and don't wear a mask.
Most people here no longer social distance at stores and public places, the stores finally took out the stupid one way isle floor markers that nobody followed anyway, that was the stupidest things making the isles one way.
Utah has setup monoclonal centers in several locations that are proving to be very effective against covid.

Let's go Brandon.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Ogg to Denn on Fri Oct 15 2021 08:10 pm

So it seems to me that the verdict of what to do is still all
over the map and some people have decided that having the covid
jab is good enough.

I think people just want to go back to living their lives the way things were before Covid. Nothing wrong with that. How people deal with Covid or don't deal with it is their own choice.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: HusTler to Ogg on Sun Oct 17 2021 05:50 am

So it seems to me that the verdict of what to do is still all
over the map and some people have decided that having the covid
jab is good enough.

I think people just want to go back to living their lives the way things were before Covid. Nothing wrong with that. How people deal with Covid or don't deal with it is their own choice.

As long as Democrats are in full control things will never get back to normal. and as long as Republicans sit on their asses and let Democrats get away with all they're getting away with now Democrats will keep gaining more power.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: HusTler to Ogg on Sun Oct 17 2021 05:50 am

jab is good enough.

I think people just want to go back to living their lives the way things were before Covid. Nothing wrong with that. How people deal with Covid or don't deal with it is their own choice.

boy you sure pulled a 180 with your views on covid.
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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Oct 17 2021 10:53 am

I think people just want to go back to living their lives the way things were before Covid. Nothing wrong with that. How people deal with Covid

boy you sure pulled a 180 with your views on covid.

Yeah. I now have a if I can't beat em join em attitude. The "people" in my neighborhood just don't want to get vaccinated. Their the people you see on the news every night protesting mandatory vaccines. You can bring a horse to water but you can't make them drink it.


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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: HusTler to MRO on Sun Oct 17 2021 09:40 pm

I think people just want to go back to living their lives the way
things were before Covid. Nothing wrong with that. How people deal
with Covid

boy you sure pulled a 180 with your views on covid.

Yeah. I now have a if I can't beat em join em attitude. The "people" in my neighborhood just don't want to get vaccinated. Their the people you see on the news every night protesting mandatory vaccines. You can bring a horse to water but you can't make them drink it.

A lot of the people protesting are already vaccinated, it's the mandate that's the issue for a good number of people.
and another good percentage of the protesters have already had covid and have t-cell antibodies that are better than the vaccines.
Joe Bidens mandate may be unconstitutional and ileagle, I go with the "My body my choice" this isn't like the vaccines of old, we have no idea if the vaccine is truly safe as it's only been around a short time.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Denn to HusTler on Sun Oct 17 2021 10:56 pm

I think people just want to go back to living their lives the way

boy you sure pulled a 180 with your views on covid.

Yeah. I now have a if I can't beat em join em attitude. The "people" in

Joe Bidens mandate may be unconstitutional and ileagle, I go with the "My bo my choice" this isn't like the vaccines of old, we have no idea if the vacci

When Trump didn't do shit about Covid the world bitched about it. Now Biden Mandates vaccinations and people are still bitching. Unreal.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: HusTler to Denn on Mon Oct 18 2021 01:52 pm

When Trump didn't do shit about Covid the world bitched about it. Now Biden Mandates vaccinations and people are still bitching. Unreal.

You can't please everyone. It seems democrats will call out republican presidents on any little thing, and republicans will call out democratic presidents on any little thing. Each side seems to have their own set of "facts" they believe are right.

Nightfox

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Hello Arelor!

** On Monday 18.10.21 - 03:19, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

Last summer I helped unload some hay trucks. I wore a mask
all throughout the process. When I was finished and I took
the mask out, the mask had many visible dust and hay
particles _inside_.

Did you have a dust-layer on your skin that was covered by the
mask? Or did the mask do a pretty good job keeping that part
of your face clean?

We did a lot of haying work every year for decades on the farm.
We never wore any masks, but tried to stay upwind from the dust
clouds. Stacking the bales in the barn was a different story;
it would stifling to wear a mask - and we never thought of
bothering with them anyway.


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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: HusTler to Denn on Mon Oct 18 2021 01:52 pm

When Trump didn't do shit about Covid the world bitched about it. Now Biden Mandates vaccinations and people are still bitching. Unreal.

he actually did do a lot. he locked down our borders which they called him a xenophobe. he talked about medicines that may work that we have found out do work and they mocked him. he also called out the country responsible and they bitched about that. he also got the ball rolling on vaccines. he got ventilators being produced, he got the medical supplies our country needed.

trump did a lot.

people shouldnt be forced to take an experimental vaccine. especially someone like me with anti bodies. it makes no sense.
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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: HusTler to Denn on Mon Oct 18 2021 01:52 pm

I think people just want to go back to living their lives the
way

boy you sure pulled a 180 with your views on covid.

Yeah. I now have a if I can't beat em join em attitude. The "people"
in

Joe Bidens mandate may be unconstitutional and ileagle, I go with the
"My bo my choice" this isn't like the vaccines of old, we have no idea
if the vacci

When Trump didn't do shit about Covid the world bitched about it. Now Biden Mandates vaccinations and people are still bitching. Unreal.

I think locking down the ecconomy was a bad idea, and I think the Biden administration refusing to acknowledge thereputics and the fact that people who have already had covid are better protected than those who got the vax.
People are getting fed up.

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Re: Last summer I helped unload some hay trucks
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Oct 18 2021 06:51 pm

Hello Arelor!

** On Monday 18.10.21 - 03:19, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

Last summer I helped unload some hay trucks. I wore a mask
all throughout the process. When I was finished and I took
the mask out, the mask had many visible dust and hay
particles _inside_.

Did you have a dust-layer on your skin that was covered by the
mask? Or did the mask do a pretty good job keeping that part
of your face clean?

We did a lot of haying work every year for decades on the farm.
We never wore any masks, but tried to stay upwind from the dust
clouds. Stacking the bales in the barn was a different story;
it would stifling to wear a mask - and we never thought of
bothering with them anyway.

I had dust and hay particles all over me by the time I was finished. The part covered by the mask was better off, though.

I certainly recommend them because you breathe less dust with them.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Denn to HusTler on Mon Oct 18 2021 11:06 pm

people who have already had covid are better protected than those who got the vax.

Don't they only have antibodies against one strain though?

Nightfox

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: MRO to HusTler on Mon Oct 18 2021 09:49 pm

When Trump didn't do shit about Covid the world bitched about it. Now
Biden Mandates vaccinations and people are still bitching. Unreal.

he actually did do a lot. he locked down our borders which they called him a xenophobe. he talked about medicines that may work that we have found

Yes Trump acted swiftly once he saw it to be a true threat.

Yesterday I went to work, had a minor sore throat so my voice was a little deeper than normal, The weather just changed here so this happens every year in the fall, My Boss asked if I was ok, My bet is he thought I had covid.
I felt great yesterday and today I feel even better, been taking my temp just to be safe, so far 97.4 and that's my normal.


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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Nightfox to Denn on Tue Oct 19 2021 08:55 am

people who have already had covid are better protected than those
who got the vax.

Don't they only have antibodies against one strain though?

If that's the case then the vax is pretty usless.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Nightfox to Denn on Tue Oct 19 2021 08:55 am

Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Denn to HusTler on Mon Oct 18 2021 11:06 pm

people who have already had covid are better protected than those who got the vax.

Don't they only have antibodies against one strain though?

Nightfox

they say they dont. but the magically vaccines work.
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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Denn to Nightfox on Tue Oct 19 2021 12:24 pm

people who have already had covid are better protected than those
who got the vax.

Don't they only have antibodies against one strain though?

If that's the case then the vax is pretty usless.

? The point was if someone has natural antibodies, their antibodies would only be against whatever strain they caught. The vaccines are supposed to protect against multiple strains. I don't know what you mean about the vaccines being useless in that case..

Nightfox

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Mon Oct 18 2021 01:13 pm

You can't please everyone. It seems democrats will call out republican presidents on any little thing, and republicans will call out democratic presidents on any little thing. Each side seems to have their own set of "facts" they believe are right.

So do America's citizens. Everyone seems to be an authority on shit they're not qualified to even have an opinion on. Yet we're going to hear it anyway.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: MRO to HusTler on Mon Oct 18 2021 09:49 pm

When Trump didn't do shit about Covid the world bitched about it. Now Biden Mandates vaccinations and people are still bitching. Unreal.

he actually did do a lot. he locked down our borders which they called him a xenophobe. he talked about medicines that may work that we have found out do work and they mocked him. he also called out the country responsible and the

I agree. He did do a lot but everyone said he wasn't doing enough. Now Biden is making vaccines mandetory and people don't like that either. Man I'd hate to be a politician. Too many dicks to suck to make people happy.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Denn to MRO on Tue Oct 19 2021 12:20 pm

Yesterday I went to work, had a minor sore throat so my voice was a little deeper than normal, The weather just changed here so this happens every year the fall, My Boss asked if I was ok, My bet is he thought I had covid.

Why would your boss think you have COVID ? I'm curious.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: HusTler to MRO on Tue Oct 19 2021 03:34 pm

I agree. He did do a lot but everyone said he wasn't doing enough. Now Biden is making vaccines mandetory and people don't like that either. Man I'd hate to be a politician. Too many dicks to suck to make people happy.

https://youtu.be/wz_V4lRdtjo

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Nightfox to Denn on Tue Oct 19 2021 08:55 am

Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Denn to HusTler on Mon Oct 18 2021 11:06 pm

people who have already had covid are better protected than those who got the vax.

Don't they only have antibodies against one strain though?

Nightfox

I published an article from The Athlantic no long ago in which it was specified that people go develops
natural immunity against a certain varian are still better protected against other variants (ie delta)
than people who takes the vaccine.

The conclussion of the article was that you should take the vaccine but not to place that much faith in
it.

Sad to see that article went ignored :-(

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: MRO to Nightfox on Tue Oct 19 2021 02:36 pm

Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Nightfox to Denn on Tue Oct 19 2021 08:55 am

Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Denn to HusTler on Mon Oct 18 2021 11:06 pm

people who have already had covid are better protected than those who got the vax.

Don't they only have antibodies against one strain though?

Nightfox

they say they dont. but the magically vaccines work.

Actually I think it is officially accepted that the range of variants covered by the vaccines which are
being distributed is not that great. It is just that people is not talking much about it.


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Hello Nightfox!

** On Tuesday 19.10.21 - 13:03, Nightfox wrote to Denn:

Don't they only have antibodies against one strain though?

If that's the case then the vax is pretty usless.

? The point was if someone has natural antibodies, their
antibodies would only be against whatever strain they
caught. The vaccines are supposed to protect against
multiple strains. I don't know what you mean about the
vaccines being useless in that case..

Our bodies begin to produce the necessary antibodies as soon as
it detects a virus. Sometimes the body can deal with the
invader very well, and we don't become too uncomfortable. In
any case, as soon as we become well, our bodies can deal with a
repeat of that strain immediately. If not, and a new variant
surfaces, ... rinse, repeat.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Nightfox to Denn on Tue Oct 19 2021 01:03 pm

? The point was if someone has natural antibodies, their antibodies would only be against whatever strain they caught. The vaccines are supposed to protect against multiple strains. I don't know what you mean about the vaccines being useless in that case..

why would it be any different? antibodies are antibodies. vaccines aren't magic. i think you are just believing the propaganda.
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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Nightfox to Denn on Tue Oct 19 2021 01:03 pm

people who have already had covid are better protected than those
who got the vax.

Don't they only have antibodies against one strain though?

If that's the case then the vax is pretty usless.

? The point was if someone has natural antibodies, their antibodies would only be against whatever strain they caught. The vaccines are supposed to protect against multiple strains. I don't know what you mean about the vaccines being useless in that case..

The Vaccines were made for the original strain of Covid, the Delta MU etc.. were not in the mix at that time.


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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: HusTler to Denn on Tue Oct 19 2021 03:46 pm

Yesterday I went to work, had a minor sore throat so my voice was a
little deeper than normal, The weather just changed here so this
happens every year the fall, My Boss asked if I was ok, My bet is he
thought I had covid.

Why would your boss think you have COVID ? I'm curious.

Where I work we've had a lot of covid over the last two years, so people are a little on edge there.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Nightfox to HusTler on Tue Oct 19 2021 03:00 pm

Man I'd hate to be a politician. Too many dicks to suck to make people happy.

https://youtu.be/wz_V4lRdtjo

LOL Very good Nightfox. Very true.

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Denn to HusTler on Wed Oct 20 2021 12:05 am

Why would your boss think you have COVID ? I'm curious.

Where I work we've had a lot of covid over the last two years, so people are little on edge there.

Does your employer require it's employees be vaccinated?

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Quoting Nightfox to Denn <=-

? The point was if someone has natural antibodies, their antibodies
would only be against whatever strain they caught.

Not necessairly. The data that we have is showing that natural immunity
is effective against the variants.

But this is why the COVID "vaccine" isn't a vaccine. With an actual
vaccine, you are getting injected with a weak/dead virus load. Your
body figures out how to neutralize it so that when you get the real
thing, it's ready.

The COVID not-vaccine doesn't do that. It "programs" your cells to make
a specific antibody - effective only against the strain that it programmed
your cells to handle.

Remember, the COVID not-vaccine has been in research for decades now and
they have NEVER had a success. But the Lefties want us to believe that
they got it right this time.

The vaccines are supposed to protect against multiple strains.

Again, not necessairly. Polio - yes. Smallpox - yes. Common flu - no.
That's why they want you to get a flu shot every year.

I don't know what you mean about the vaccines being useless in that case..

You are caught up in the Left's redefinition of "vaccine".

All of us have in our minds a definition of "vaccine". So the
Propaganda Ministry pushes something that they call a "vaccine". So we
assume that it matches the definition that we have in our heads.

The problem is that it doesn't.

Then a couple weeks ago, they had the CDC (and other Leftie-controlled
sites) change the definition to match the definition of "vaccine" that
they've been pushing.


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Quoting Hustler to Denn <=-

Why would your boss think you have COVID ? I'm curious.

I don't know about Denn, but that's why I won't bring smoked whitefish
to work for lunch (I love smoked fish and have been eating it for
years).

Boss: What's that awful smell?
Me: *swallowing my current mouthful of tasty smoked fish* I don't smell anything bad.
Boss: You must have COVID!


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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: Ogg to Nightfox on Tue Oct 19 2021 05:43 pm

Don't they only have antibodies against one strain though?

If that's the case then the vax is pretty usless.

? The point was if someone has natural antibodies, their
antibodies would only be against whatever strain they
caught. The vaccines are supposed to protect against
multiple strains. I don't know what you mean about the
vaccines being useless in that case..

Our bodies begin to produce the necessary antibodies as soon as
it detects a virus. Sometimes the body can deal with the
invader very well, and we don't become too uncomfortable. In
any case, as soon as we become well, our bodies can deal with a
repeat of that strain immediately. If not, and a new variant
surfaces, ... rinse, repeat.

Yes, I understand how the body's immune system works. I was just saying I thought the vaccine helped to protect against multiple strains.

Nightfox

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Re: you can 'STILL' get covid
By: HusTler to Denn on Wed Oct 20 2021 05:39 am

Where I work we've had a lot of covid over the last two years, so
people are little on edge there.

Does your employer require it's employees be vaccinated?

No, and those of us who are vaccinated don't need to wear a mask.

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